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08-05-2018, 07:53 AM | #21 |
endlesssummerofthedamned
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I went back through some of the notes I had written up on how Cobra evolved from concept to massive terrorist organization. I often forget a lot of what I write, so I always have to refresh my memory. In the comics, Cobra Commander built his empire using pyramid schemes and other scams - twice, in fact. After he was assassinated and presumed dead, he went underground and retained the use of his most loyal Crimson Guardsmen to help him start all over, almost entirely from scratch, before returning to Cobra Island and taking control. I also really like the way that Cobra was a legit global business in the Renegades cartoons, so I used both those ideas a inspiration for redesigning my own Cobra backstory.
It started with CC building an off the grid commune called the Oroboros Commorancy, where he and his followers only desired to escape the invasive tentacles of federal regulations. Having a military background and a desire to be prepared, the commune trained in self-defense and combat tactics in case they ever needed to protect their land. The FBI got involved and things ended up very Waco, Texas. CC - who saw his wife and son killed in the ensuing raid - escaped with the Baroness and went underground, escaping to the Baroness' eastern European home where they eventually devised a plan to retaliate against the American government. They made a number of connections with international terrorists and employed some counterintelligence operatives to collect as much harmful information against US senators, congressmen and military leaders in order to extort them. After several years of careful planning, they had returned to the US, built respectable businesses known as Administrative Identities (specializing in business and personal security and information procurement) and C.O.I.L. (Covert Operations Integral Logistics - a Blackwater-like military for hire group), forged a relationship with Destro and MARS, established Springfield as a base of operations, and initiated a wide-spread recruiting campaign using resources like veterans outreach programs. At it's height, I see the Cobra organization hosting a combined strength upwards of approximately 50,000. This includes everything from legitimate business employees to unstructured terrorist groups, smugglers, mercenaries and others on their payroll. The actual Cobra military force size would be close to that of a division - around 10 to 15,000 troops. Just rough numbers to try and get a firm grasp of how large Cobra might be.
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08-05-2018, 01:48 PM | #22 |
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I dig it. I've always been one for having a believable back story. Keep it going..
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08-05-2018, 08:18 PM | #23 |
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Ive never sat down and organized the Blue Shirts or Vipers, but I do have them grouped as the main body and splinter cells.
North America : Cobra (Cobra Commander,) Dreadnoks (Zartan,) Strike First (Wingfield) South America : Cobra (Werewolf) Europe : Cobra (Anna von Stromburg,) S.K.A.R. (Iron Klaw,) Two Headed Serpent (Michael Anke,) I.R.O.N. (Blitz) Japan : First Order (Azaki Suromo) Ironblood never becomes CC, so the Red Shadows are still a separate organization run by him. When Destro and the Baroness left Cobra and formed the Iron Grenadiers and Athena they never merged back with Cobra either. |
08-06-2018, 01:35 PM | #24 |
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Not to derail your excellent brass tacks take on the Cobra Military Force, I see the factions of Cobra throughout the world.
So Cobra Commander and Serpentor co-lead Cobra. But under the Umbrella that pay tribute to Cobra, Red Shadows, Red Ninjas(The Hand), Iron Grenadiers, SKAR, (Not sure about how the Dreadnoks fit in), Hydra, The COIL. That Top tier of leadership: Heads of State: Cobra Commander (President\KING) and Serpentor (Emperor) Nobility: Red Skull, Baron Iron-Blood, Baron Zemo, Baron von Strucker, The Mandarin, Baroness, Destro, Darlkon, Iron-Klaw, Khalikhan, The Twins, Dr. Doom Generals: Overlord, Blitz, Mayhem, Anaconda (Custom Admiral), Golobulus Lt. Generals: Cesspool, Zartan, Miles Mayhem, Dr. Venom, Maj. Generals: Major Bludd, Black Major, Dr. Mindbender, Headman, OverKill, Venomous Max, Storm Shadow Brig.: Interrogator, Crystal Ball, Firefly, Wild Weasel, CLAW Commander,
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08-06-2018, 05:38 PM | #25 |
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Not to derail your excellent brass tacks take on the Cobra Military Force, I see the factions of Cobra throughout the world.
So Cobra Commander and Serpentor co-lead Cobra. But under the Umbrella that pay tribute to Cobra, Red Shadows, Red Ninjas(The Hand), Iron Grenadiers, SKAR, (Not sure about how the Dreadnoks fit in), Hydra, The COIL. The Noks to me, are still just a Global biker gang, but with Zartans many years of working with CC, he supplies them with weapons and gear/tech that make them more like a PMC. Hydra is just like The Hand, separate entity, but Cobra is on par with them as far as a Terrorist Organization goes. The Coil, since they were basically just Cobra troops that did not want to follow a CeeGee once Serpentor was killed they stopped being a faction. Quote:
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The Mandarin has his 10 Rings Organization. Baroness, Destro and Darklon as I said all cut ties with Cobra. Khalikhan falls under Suromo and Japan. The Twins, Obviously fall under both Europe (Corsica,) and North America with have EE headquarters in both. Doom is a scientist and ruler of his own country, that has no ties to anyone other that Reed Richards and Tony Stark. Quote:
Cobra LA does not exsist. Cesspool although is a Cobra Agent, he has his own Troops compared to the rest of Cobras HazMat troops, and his use of chemical weapons doesnt sit well with CC. I forgot about V.E.N.O.M. They would fall under North America. Quote:
Headman has nothing to do with Cobra and vice versa since all he is is a Drug Dealer. Overkill was never modified into a B.A.T., so hes still just a S.A.W. Viper. There are no Venom Troopers, so Hawk was never turned into Venomous Max. Obviously I have A.I.M. as an off shoot of Hydra, and I also have The League of Assisins/Shadows and Jeff and Jason Burr's Strike Force Kobra that are major threats. |
08-06-2018, 08:10 PM | #26 |
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Ive never sat down and organized the Blue Shirts or Vipers, but I do have them grouped as the main body and splinter cells.
North America : Cobra (Cobra Commander,) Dreadnoks (Zartan,) Strike First (Wingfield) South America : Cobra (Werewolf) Europe : Cobra (Anna von Stromburg,) S.K.A.R. (Iron Klaw,) Two Headed Serpent (Michael Anke,) I.R.O.N. (Blitz) Japan : First Order (Azaki Suromo) Ironblood never becomes CC, so the Red Shadows are still a separate organization run by him. When Destro and the Baroness left Cobra and formed the Iron Grenadiers and Athena they never merged back with Cobra either. Quote:
Not to derail your excellent brass tacks take on the Cobra Military Force, I see the factions of Cobra throughout the world.
So Cobra Commander and Serpentor co-lead Cobra. But under the Umbrella that pay tribute to Cobra, Red Shadows, Red Ninjas(The Hand), Iron Grenadiers, SKAR, (Not sure about how the Dreadnoks fit in), Hydra, The COIL. That Top tier of leadership: Heads of State: Cobra Commander (President\KING) and Serpentor (Emperor) Nobility: Red Skull, Baron Iron-Blood, Baron Zemo, Baron von Strucker, The Mandarin, Baroness, Destro, Darlkon, Iron-Klaw, Khalikhan, The Twins, Dr. Doom Generals: Overlord, Blitz, Mayhem, Anaconda (Custom Admiral), Golobulus Lt. Generals: Cesspool, Zartan, Miles Mayhem, Dr. Venom, Maj. Generals: Major Bludd, Black Major, Dr. Mindbender, Headman, OverKill, Venomous Max, Storm Shadow Brig.: Interrogator, Crystal Ball, Firefly, Wild Weasel, CLAW Commander,
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08-06-2018, 09:38 PM | #27 |
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I've said it before, but I'd love to see Cobra Commander and Destro meet up with Red Skull and Zemo, Baroness meets Madame HYDRA, Storm Shadow and Jinx meet Daredevil and Elektra, the Hand cross swords Zartan's red ninja, Firefly and Major Bludd are trained in Taskmaster's mercenary academy, Zartan and Crystal Ball get access to AIM technology... and they have to fight Captain America, Hawkeye, Scarlett, Black Widow, Roadblock, Duke, Gung Ho, Snake Eyes, US Agent and Winter Solider. GO!
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08-07-2018, 12:41 AM | #28 |
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That so needs to happen!
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08-08-2018, 05:01 PM | #29 |
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There are so many different Cobra troop types, many with overlapping specializations, and some of which have file cards that don't collectively make a whole lot of sense. I imagine that over the years Cobra has grown and developed, and there have been various reorganizations to account for this.
So not all the existing troop types need to be part of the same universal command structure. For example, it makes no sense to me that Snow Serpents, Ice Vipers, and all the different naval troops should be recruited from the Eels (how many elite frogmen do they have, after all?) |
08-08-2018, 08:24 PM | #30 |
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There are so many different Cobra troop types, many with overlapping specializations, and some of which have file cards that don't collectively make a whole lot of sense. I imagine that over the years Cobra has grown and developed, and there have been various reorganizations to account for this.
So not all the existing troop types need to be part of the same universal command structure. For example, it makes no sense to me that Snow Serpents, Ice Vipers, and all the different naval troops should be recruited from the Eels (how many elite frogmen do they have, after all?) But it does work better to have the larger, main structure of the military to be adequately trained to deal with a broad scope of scenarios (much like the real military does), and keep a small reserve of the elite soldiers to deploy when surgical precision is required. So in my mind, there are thousands of Cobra Troopers in basic support roles, hundreds of Cobra Vipers to form your infantry, and pretty much every other group would only have a few dozen squads. Because it would just be unfeasible to have, say, 300 Rock Vipers. How many vertical assaults do you think Cobra has going on at any given moment across the globe? I'm guessing not many. So a platoon of Rock Vipers (maybe 4 squads of 5 or 6 soldiers) would be plenty for their entire operation.
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