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03-09-2019, 03:11 AM | #311 |
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Bobby said this too.
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03-09-2019, 03:29 AM | #312 |
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Oh crap—I’m incorrect. It WAS Bobby, not Mark, lol! *sorry Mark*
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03-09-2019, 08:19 AM | #313 |
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I still think it's a good question on why we didn't get an ARAH styled Duke with Tombstone.
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03-09-2019, 08:55 AM | #314 |
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Reading between the lines, Sunbow Duke was supposed to be in the SDCC set, but became the Ren Roadblock at some point. Maybe both Dukes were in development concurrently and the gears couldn’t be switched in time. That is the only reasonable explanation other than intentional malice, ie they want a blond guy, well we will give them a candy ass blond guy (see O-Face Duke being rereleased rather than a good Sunbow as well). Later day Hasbro has been an odd, caddy place.
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03-09-2019, 09:35 AM | #315 |
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I too like the question about ARAH Duke with 50th parts.
What about an ARAH Roadblock with 50th/Retaliation parts?
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03-09-2019, 09:57 AM | #316 |
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Reading between the lines, Sunbow Duke was supposed to be in the SDCC set, but became the Ren Roadblock at some point. Maybe both Dukes were in development concurrently and the gears couldn’t be switched in time. That is the only reasonable explanation other than intentional malice, ie they want a blond guy, well we will give them a candy ass blond guy (see O-Face Duke being rereleased rather than a good Sunbow as well). Later day Hasbro has been an odd, caddy place.
As you mentioned, the 50th MASS Device set rereleased O-face Duke, crappy 25th CC, and crappy 25th Cobra Trooper. That set was a total wasted opportunity. Had it been rerelease Retaliation ultimate CC, rereleased 30th Cobra Trooper, and an ultimate ARAH Duke that thing would have sold like CRAZY years earlier. Instead, it was a 3-pack of nobody's favorite version of anything and people only bought it for the TV camera. I don't know if that was under Mark's tenure or not, but that's a hell of a head-scratcher as well. If a good Duke ARAH update was planned as an exclusive that only raises more questions!
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03-09-2019, 01:17 PM | #317 |
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Making the ultimate ARAH Duke an SDCC exclusive would have been foolish. Especially when - as far as I know - Mark knew that year's 50th was the end of the retail line. Why waste the ultimate Duke on an exclusive many of us wouldn't be able to get? It's not like the retail line was being bought by kids en masse and only die-hard collectors wanted ARAH Duke.
As you mentioned, the 50th MASS Device set rereleased O-face Duke, crappy 25th CC, and crappy 25th Cobra Trooper. That set was a total wasted opportunity. Had it been rerelease Retaliation ultimate CC, rereleased 30th Cobra Trooper, and an ultimate ARAH Duke that thing would have sold like CRAZY years earlier. Instead, it was a 3-pack of nobody's favorite version of anything and people only bought it for the TV camera. I don't know if that was under Mark's tenure or not, but that's a hell of a head-scratcher as well. If a good Duke ARAH update was planned as an exclusive that only raises more questions!
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03-09-2019, 02:13 PM | #318 |
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The two ideas/timeframes (between Mark and Bobby) do not necessarily converge; I think this was Bobby’s next step had he been given a 2nd SDCC set to develop. Joe 50th was no longer being produced for TRU, AND, Bobby wasn’t going for standard packaging anyway. He wanted Ultimate v1 Duke (and maybe Dark blue hooded CC? Can’t remember what he said) in a plastic packaging, with red back file cards, just like the original mail aways. That wouldn’t work very easily for retail without non-peg shelf space (and actually ZERO shelf space at that point), and the collector novelty of the items would have been lost on kids/non-collectors, making it perfect for SDCC.
If that was also Weber's time, wouldn't that make two 50th Dukes released by Weber and neither one was made as an ultimate?
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03-09-2019, 05:12 PM | #319 |
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I hope they make it a point to discuss the Change.org petition started for Mark. Let’s get some more signatures for the petition.
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03-09-2019, 06:02 PM | #320 |
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They intentionally put the superior ARAH Flint in a SDCC exclusive. A terrible business decision, right in line with O-Face Duke being rereleased. Not only money losing propositions, but a squandering of opportunities (maybe those were already too limited though). The only explanation is that they thought the SDCC Docks set wouldn’t sell so they hotshotted the set, or it was unclear if it would see retail release. Ren Roadblock was correct to be an exclusive, but the ARAH Flint? C’mon man.
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