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04-07-2009, 09:38 PM | #1 |
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Hey there HT members, I'm currently creating a fan made GI Joe story, somewhere along the line I would like to introduce Serpentor, but I have some issues. 1st, he was really a far out character, having Napoleon, Alexander, Count Dracula, so on and son on, could many of there bodies still have dna even for 3000-500 years. 2nd, I've always like cobra commander, better in the comics and sigma six considering he was a warrior king. So I ask other GI Joe fans what they think?
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04-07-2009, 09:41 PM | #2 |
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i dont get it?
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04-07-2009, 09:53 PM | #3 |
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Serpie is a hard pill to swallow if you have a "G.I. Joe is just like the real world" point of view. Unplug reality for a minute, then you can use him, and he can give you a ton of interesting side stories (like the creation of the pizza story from the comics).
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04-07-2009, 09:55 PM | #4 |
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I can't recall Serpentor having the DNA of Dracula though I may have missed that vat in Mindbender's lab in the comics though one must assume in theory the bodies that Destro and Mindbender store had enough bone or something left that DNA could be extracted in some way so I fail to see how that's an issue in your story.
Having those varying DNAs mixed in allowed Serpentor to be the leader he was and while he was written to be a little mixed up in some aspects he also was a powerful leader who did, for a time, encourage loyalty in the Cobra troops. CC, on the other hand, was more of a simple manipulator who got what he wanted by steamrolling over many of those with him. He was more of a down to earth character....for a guy in a hood with a voice that could make you deaf. I guess since you're the writer you can introduce Serpentor in any way you want at any time you want though if you plan to show this to an audience, IE a fan fiction forum somewhere, you may want to keep his beginnings as realistic as possible since many fans know how he came to be and may not like it if he's changed too much. |
04-07-2009, 09:59 PM | #5 |
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I can't recall Serpentor having the DNA of Dracula though I may have missed that vat in Mindbender's lab in the comics though one must assume in theory the bodies that Destro and Mindbender store had enough bone or something left that DNA could be extracted in some way so I fail to see how that's an issue in your story.
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04-07-2009, 10:06 PM | #6 |
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Ah, got it. I can barely recall those episodes.
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04-07-2009, 10:10 PM | #7 |
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To be a fan of G.I. Joe one must suspend reality every now and then. In the case of Serpentor it is very much a suspension of reality and a mix of modern science mixing together. DNA can still be found in things thousands of years old. One need to use thier imagination for Serpentor since most of the remains cobra used for him have long since vanished. Alexander the Great, Vlad Tepes (a.k.a. count dracula) are but a couple examples of needing imagination when it comes to Serpentor. As for me, Serpentor is my second favorite character from the Joe universe. Being a historian I find the idea of a mix of histories greates leaders fascinating. Of special note tho, while mindbender tries to use Sgt. Slaughters DNA for the cartoon version of serpentor the ommission of men such as Lee, Patton, Washington and other American Military Geniuses. I could even believe the use of Robert E. Lee or Stone Wall Jackson considering they fought "against" the U.S. Patton was considered a rebel or free thinker and Washington fought against his King.Serpentor is just a fun character that requires imagination.
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04-07-2009, 10:22 PM | #8 |
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Think of Serpentor as the evil Capain America. A super-soldier experiment. Don't go too crazy in your story with mixing DNA together; an alternative might be Mindbender's study of the ancient leaders' DNA and applying specific traits to either an existing soldier's genetic makeup or a clone. As we all know, human cloning is only a matter of time. The only thing holding the science back is ethics, and how much longer do you think that will win out?
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04-07-2009, 10:31 PM | #9 |
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Thank you Gungho joe, col abernathy, and morgan08, your comments are most interesting, you see in my universe, serpentor serves cobra but because of his ambitions he dislikes it, thus time and time he tries to depose cobra commander, eventually their rivalry will esculate........
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04-07-2009, 10:31 PM | #10 |
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For me Serpentor is a co-head of state with Cobra Commander. Neither one is really in charge of the other and they have their own forces that are particularly loyal to them. Cobra Commander is the Money Maker and with his Crimson Guards has amassed a huge amount of wealth for Cobra. I see Serpentor as the Head General and he takes care of the Mercenary Army aspect of Cobra. When a unpopular dictator is faced with having to crush a rebellion who do you call? COBRA. Serpentor rolls up and quickly puts an end to the uprising. Cobra Commander may actually be selling weapons to both sides or in conjunction with Destro. Plus once they show up Cobra does everything in it's power to control your country.
I doubt Cobra Commander and Serpentor really like each other and they tend to stay on opposite ends of the earth if possible. |
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