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03-20-2009, 07:30 PM | #1 |
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I was thinking about this the other day. I've always thought that vipers were above cobra troopers and the filecard for the new viper says this as well. I'm wondering what that means for the cobra officers. It seems like there were a lot more vipers in the cartoons than the officers who were kinda elite. Plus the vipers were supposedly the backbone of the cobra legion. I was just wondering how you guys imagined this working.
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03-20-2009, 07:35 PM | #2 |
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It depends on if you go by the filecard that says the Viper is the lowest rung, then that would put Troopers and Officers above Vipers.
Now I think the Vipers are kind of like Cobra's Special Forces (equivalent to the Army Rangers). So a Cobra Officer could outrank a Viper. In the Army the rank would matter, but in Cobra I think the Viper would ignore the Officer. So in that case, the Officer would "outrank" the Viper, but the Viper would be more elite and just ignore the Officer.
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03-20-2009, 07:38 PM | #3 |
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Some people say that the Vipers are the "Marines" of the Cobra army while the Troopers and Officers are the "Army". Thus a Viper officer would be equal to a blueshirt Officer.
I always thought the Vipers were just an improvement in weapons, uniforms and such. As Cobra became more powerful and wealthier it was able to outfit it's troops with better equipment. They were able to give the different MOS's their own uniforms as well (Alley-Viper, Tele-Viper, etc) rather than just the basic blueshirt uniform. In my eyes they are the same, perhaps not all Cobra units have been issued the newer Viper uniforms and such, thus why there are still blueshirts around. |
03-20-2009, 07:57 PM | #4 |
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I always thought the Vipers were just an improvement in weapons, uniforms and such. As Cobra became more powerful and wealthier it was able to outfit it's troops with better equipment. They were able to give the different MOS's their own uniforms as well (Alley-Viper, Tele-Viper, etc) rather than just the basic blueshirt uniform. In my eyes they are the same, perhaps not all Cobra units have been issued the newer Viper uniforms and such, thus why there are still blueshirts around.
I don't think individual specialties would outrank one another simply because of their function, just like in any military outfit. a SEAL E-3 would certainly be beneath a Boatswains Mate E-6. and an Eel could be below a standard Cobra Trooper (unless there are rank requirements to enter the Eels). one has nothing to do with the other. so, yes, a Viper would be below an Officer simply because the Officer is, well, an Officer (if you go by the original filecard for the Officer). but, if there are Viper Officers, they would be of equal rank to regular Cobra Officers. conversely, a Viper doesn't outrank a Cobra Trooper, they would be equal and it would simply be a matter of rank structure within those. |
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03-20-2009, 08:36 PM | #5 |
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cobra officer outranks the viper. why? the officer has better arms and can hold a weapon better. the officer is hands-down the out-ranking cobra.
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03-20-2009, 08:44 PM | #6 |
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This always confuses me. Someone should really come up with a ranking chart for Cobra.
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03-20-2009, 08:56 PM | #7 |
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well, the filecards state pretty explicitly some structure. Officers are the equivalent of an O-4, Troopers an equivalent of an E-4 (hardly the lowest wrung on the military ladder) and Vipers are where any Cobra starts (which can only mean is the very bottom of Cobra). but throughout the Years it has been changed. also, people confuse specialty with rank and think that if a Cobra has a more technical specialty they must outrank more generic roles. that doesn't really have any correlation to military ranking.
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03-20-2009, 09:00 PM | #8 |
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VIPERS look better and are friggin cooler.
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03-20-2009, 09:05 PM | #9 |
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Truth, there's no way the troopers are meant to be higher than the vipers.
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03-20-2009, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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I always had this theory about the Vipers....they came around when Serpentor kicked off Cobra Commander and took his place. For me the Vipers took the place of the regular Cobra Officers..and their uniforms...the chrome mask in particular was meant as an insult to Cobra Commander....what once was used just for the commander was now a standard uniform piece for the regular grunt
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