|03-17-2009, 07:36 PM||#1|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, OH
A good number of GI Joe fans are requesting or even customizing female Cobra soldiers, which is fine, but I don’t personally believe Cobra would have women in battle at all.
Here is why I believe this. Cobra has a reactionary, might even say fascist, ideology. From what we saw of Cobra in the original Larry Hama comics is that part of Cobra Commander’s downward spiral, which lead to the founding of Cobra, was his wife leaving him. Fascist propaganda about women was that their duty was to remain at home, have children, and pass down a mythological view of family. In part, the defeat of the Nazis was because they did not use women in the war effort until nearly the end of the war; unlike the US where women worked in factories or the USSR where women were actually in battle. Remember the Fred/Wade Collins was placed with a family to present the image of the nuclear unit. To me it seems that Cobra’s ideology is that it is standing up for the little guy who has had his manhood taken away by the modern world and the very women’s lib that would put women in battle would be one of these “evils” Cobra would oppose. Likewise I would see Cobra as a very white group for the same reasons.
No, I personally would believe that the Baroness would be the only Cobra woman on the battlefield; probably due to a relationship with the Commander and Destro. Where I think you might find Cobra women is in very traditionally gendered positions (nurses, secretaries, etc.) and as intelligence agents, but not as troops.
|03-17-2009, 07:39 PM||#2|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Cobra Island
I would think Cobra female troopers would be uncommon but ther would be some. Cobra is an illegal organization, not a legitimate national government. In effect all of their troops are mercenaries, whether they serve for money or something else of value to them. I think Cobra would take whoever would be willing to join.
|03-17-2009, 07:42 PM||#3|
Mad Scientist at Large
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Portland, OR
I believe we saw female blueshirts in at least one ep.
Idealogy goes only so far when you're strapped for warm bodies to stick in the frey. At the very least we'd see them in combat support roles the same as our army. Drivers, mechanics, intelligence, electronic warfare, and pilots (there was at least one female strato-viper in the animated series, and she was no joke). The ony thing holding back Hasbro from making a female blue or greenshirt is whether there is a demand enough, and I'd say there is.
|03-17-2009, 07:45 PM||#4|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Yep there's a female trooper in one of the Best of DVD episodes. I think that female strato-viper is also on the DVD. Personally, I don't think Cobra cares who you are so long as you're willing to shoot and die for the cause.
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|03-17-2009, 07:49 PM||#5|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northwood, NH
There would be Female Cobra Troopers. CC is not an idiot (regardless of what the cartoon showed). He wasn't a facist, in that racism and sexism was one of his points. His wife leaving him was just additional motivation.
CC is the classic militia leader. Disinfranchised with the government, looks to blame his misfortunes on others. It's not his fault that his business tanked, it was the government. etc.. etc..
Even if he didn't want Female Cobra Troopers at the beginning, he would have allowed them in eventually. Like I said, he's not stupid, he knows where his army comes from and he's not going to turn away anyone that wants to join. His "supply" isn't unlimited. He doesn't have a bunch of kids turning 18 and enlisting like Nations do. He has to recruit what he can, when he can.
So if there's some bad-ass chick that wants to join. He's not going to say no.
Also, if not having women in his movement was on his agenda, why was the Baroness there every step of the way.
Your thinking is very sexist.
The main reason that women are not allowed on the battlefield has to do with the instinctive call of the male to protect the woman. CC has never shown any facist tendacies. His army has always been multicultural.
In fact, it would be against CC's original idealogy for Cobra for it to exclude anyone. The whole point of Cobra was "stand up for the little guy".
So was the reason that this thread was made, because of those female Cobra blueshirt customs? That's pretty sad...
|03-17-2009, 07:49 PM||#6|
Full of Love and C-4
Join Date: Aug 2007
only women in Cobra are cooks and wash and dry the clothes.8P
|03-17-2009, 07:49 PM||#7|
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kansas City, MO
It doesn't matter if they would, could, or should. They already do. They've been in a few episodes of the old cartoon, and if they exist in the cartoon, then they exist period. Wouldn't be any more odd than having the Baroness, or Zarana around.
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|03-17-2009, 07:50 PM||#8|
Join Date: Nov 2008
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what do you call zanya, zarana and dr. knox then?
|03-17-2009, 08:10 PM||#9|
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