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09-17-2019, 07:14 AM | #23101 |
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09-17-2019, 07:23 AM | #23102 |
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You could use him as part of a US Army Special Operations Resuscitation Team (SORT)
https://www.jsomonline.org/Publicati...27Riesberg.pdf SORTs deploy as part of the 528th Sustainment Brigade and are composed of the following; • 61N Flight Surgeon • 66H Critical Care Nurse • 68W Special Operations Combat Medic (SOCM) • 68W Special Operations Combat Medic (SOCM) • 68W Special Operations Combat Medic (SOCM) • 68P X-Ray Technician • 68K Lab Technician • 68G Patient Admin Specialist They can be deployed to a Forward Operating Base with a special Med Container which converts into a Medical Station where with the 7 above they can take care of; x 3 Critical Care Patients x 3 Intensive Care Patients and x 4 Intermediate Care beds. Not sure about the X-ray Tech, the Lab Tech and the Patient Admin Specialist but I remember reading that they get additional training to the point where they are at least at the EMT-Basic level. I'd have to go thru my notes again to double check. Or maybe adapt a USAF Special Operations Combat Surgical Team (SOST)to be multi-service? A SOST deploys as a six-member team composed of: Emergency physician General surgeon Nurse anesthetist Critical care nurse Surgical technician Respiratory therapist https://www.airforcespecialtactics.a...field-Surgery/ This way you don't have to create as many greenshirt types you might need to in filling out a whole Fwd Surgical Team. With Doc, Doc II, SOS (Argentinean Doc) and GI Jane you've got 4 out of 6 billets filled. |
09-17-2019, 07:37 AM | #23103 |
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Mess Specialists like Chef (the GIJ Con Custom Class Figure based on the unproduced Cereal mail away figure that became Starduster) or Spuds (IDW) Or Supply / Logistics guys like Billdocker, IDW Long John, IDW Mojo or IDW Poker Face (who might be Infantry). Man, I miss Chuck Dixon's take on Joe. I know alot of people didn't like the IDW volumes of Joe but he really did gift us with lots and lots of greenshirt names to fill out the support roles a team like the Joes would need in order to function. Even Larry Hama has been slowly drip feeding new support Joes lately like Joystick the drone pilot, Bottom Line the accountant (in the letters page but still) and the JAG Lawyer whose names escapes me. |
09-17-2019, 08:04 AM | #23104 |
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Thanks Tyroc!
So it looks like in the case of Force Recon that four of the Divers are Navy while the other two are Marines. Do you have any billet requirements for your setup? Obviously the Master Diver would be Navy. I am guessing the other five billets are MOS/Rating dependent. Also is your Dive Locker part of your Combat Support Squadron (with the MPC, Master Breachers, EOD, etc)? Yeah they'll be part of the Combat Support Squadron but I'm thinking of splitting off most of the Navy guys into their own unit. The Naval Operations - Mobility & Dive Support or Nomads / Nomad Squadron (based on the unproduced Concept Case N.O.M.A.D.S. troop builder figure) will be where I'm putting all the boat guys and Divers. Functionally it'll operate like DEVGRU's Gray Squadron https://www.americanspecialops.com/devgru/ and the Special Boat Service's Maritime Manuver Squadron https://www.eliteukforces.info/speci...-service/sfbo/ It'll have; SWCC's who crew the Joe's boats (Shipwreck, Topside, Rampart), SDV Seals who operate the Swimmer Delivery Vehicles (I bought a few True Heroes Sentinel 1 Submarines) which one day I'll customize into Sea Dagger mini subs https://www.amazon.com/True-Heroes-S.../dp/B00MJ4VOGO https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dagger/ and the Navy Divers. Because my Joe team is focused around the CP/WMD mission they need a small but robust salvage diving capability. I have about a half dozen Deep Six v1's lying around for this. By splitting the most of the navy guys into their own unit, I can get by with a small maintenance team and avoid having to fill out lots of maintenance and mechanic positions by making the boats and equipment still the property of Naval Special Warfare and is just 'on extended loan' to the Joes. It's kind of like taking the new car back to the dealer for servicing (small dedicated group of mechanics) and if something major is wrong it goes back to the factory. If that makes sense?. In the scheme of things I guess it doesn't make a difference, but to me it does. I'm trying to make my 'verse as realistic as possible and I read an article about the cost and upkeep of NSW boats and the amount of mechanical maintenance they need (and the number of people that comes with it) and yikes. |
09-17-2019, 08:20 PM | #23105 |
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Sorry I missed this question John :(
Yeah they'll be part of the Combat Support Squadron but I'm thinking of splitting off most of the Navy guys into their own unit. The Naval Operations - Mobility & Dive Support or Nomads / Nomad Squadron (based on the unproduced Concept Case N.O.M.A.D.S. troop builder figure) will be where I'm putting all the boat guys and Divers. Functionally it'll operate like DEVGRU's Gray Squadron https://www.americanspecialops.com/devgru/ and the Special Boat Service's Maritime Manuver Squadron https://www.eliteukforces.info/speci...-service/sfbo/ It'll have; SWCC's who crew the Joe's boats (Shipwreck, Topside, Rampart), SDV Seals who operate the Swimmer Delivery Vehicles (I bought a few True Heroes Sentinel 1 Submarines) which one day I'll customize into Sea Dagger mini subs https://www.amazon.com/True-Heroes-S.../dp/B00MJ4VOGO https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dagger/ and the Navy Divers. Because my Joe team is focused around the CP/WMD mission they need a small but robust salvage diving capability. I have about a half dozen Deep Six v1's lying around for this. By splitting the most of the navy guys into their own unit, I can get by with a small maintenance team and avoid having to fill out lots of maintenance and mechanic positions by making the boats and equipment still the property of Naval Special Warfare and is just 'on extended loan' to the Joes. It's kind of like taking the new car back to the dealer for servicing (small dedicated group of mechanics) and if something major is wrong it goes back to the factory. If that makes sense?. In the scheme of things I guess it doesn't make a difference, but to me it does. I'm trying to make my 'verse as realistic as possible and I read an article about the cost and upkeep of NSW boats and the amount of mechanical maintenance they need (and the number of people that comes with it) and yikes. Same here. I am trying to base my team on realism and a lot of that is going to have to do with cost as well. I have settled with starting my fanfic as the Joes starting as a fledgling unit with opposition from Delta (who feel threatened that some of their budget is going to be slashed). The Joes first mission is a rushed affair as Intel has a lead on a WMD storage facility in Iraq and they want the Joes on it. The Joes have to borrow weapons and equipment from some units already stationed in Iraq as well as utilize SOARS for their air transportation needs. The mission goes south when the recon team is compromised and the helicopters dedicated to the Joe QRF team (2 Apaches and 2 Chinooks) are sent on another mission at the last minute. Hawk must now try to find a non-SOARS unit to provide extraction for the recon team. He is able to but it only consists of two Blackhawks. One of the two copters is shot down and injures several on his team in the crash (the infamous helicopter wreck that rendered Snake-Eyes unable to speak). SE is flown to Germany as a patient to see some military doctors for surgery. In my fanfic his military career is over after this. The reason for my brief summary is because once the Joes get back stateside Hawk needs to go over the mission and what areas are considered lacking and what he will need to prevent these kinds of issues from happening again. Obviously budget is going to play a huge factor into this. Maybe this is where he thinks he needs his own dedicated air support and procure Wild Bill (along with some other helicopter pilots). Maintaining helicopters is going to be expensive but I like your idea about certain equipment being on loan from another unit. The Joes will also need a small maintenance unit as well to maintain the helicopters. Cost savings will be significant and Delta will breathe easier knowing their budget will not be slashed (since Hawk is budgeting his unit well). |
09-26-2019, 06:24 PM | #23106 |
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So, I'm thinking about all the missiles Cobra has and wondered who would operate all of them. It's a specialty, right? Well, I know of Scrap-Iron, but that's about it. The H.E.A.T.-Vipers were my first choice, but they seem to be predominantly anti-tank. The Cobra C.L.A.W.S. are "light armored weapons specialists", which doesn't sound like the operators of large missiles, like, say, the Cobra Adder and Cobra Imp have. The Cobra Bazooka Soldiers seem even less qualified. Any ideas?
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09-26-2019, 06:51 PM | #23107 |
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I would say Flak-Vipers. I like to think it would be a team of blue-shirts, as I like to think any Cobra with a "Viper" suffix is more of an elite trooper who went through Viper school. But Flak-Vipers are the anti-aircraft troopers.
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09-26-2019, 09:39 PM | #23108 |
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Oh man, thanks! I forgot about those suck ass toga wearing fops! But yeah, they fit the bill even though Hasbro forgot the Cobra symbol.
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09-27-2019, 11:27 AM | #23109 |
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Man, I just noticed this: Duke's v.6 file card states that his 2nd Military Specialty is "Military Intelligence (G-2)". What does that mean?
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09-27-2019, 02:14 PM | #23110 |
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Not sure what's up with the G-2 desgination. I would think it means he works at the General Staff Division Level.
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