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10-10-2009, 10:17 AM | #9441 |
W.O.R.M.S. Commander
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Welcome aboard thegame68! It's nice to see new faces here so feel free! Can't wait to hear your Joeverse. But like mine I change it regularly, due to unforseen good ideas I steal from the very gentleman on this thread.
I love Spirit. I sort of wish he gets a new outfit one day, like Dart, but even his all black is pretty recognizable with him. Still Storm Shadow should be able to kick his ass in about two seconds. I would think the only real edge Spirit would have is sneaking up on Storm Shadow like hunting deer or something. He should be reinvented as a Recon/Sniper. Flamethrowers are a tough one, like Tyroc they are engineers and Armorers in my verse. They never walk in with Flamethrowers anywhere. They keep them on the Truck. |
10-10-2009, 10:25 AM | #9442 |
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I just got Benchpress in the mail and he is a great figure. I only wish he was Gung-Ho since he seems like the right size. Not sure what his role is an INfantry combat specialist? He is clearly a Rock'n'Roll knock off but I'm confused.
Second problem I have is with Air-Raid? I'll use him as a new chracter but E-5? I suppose He'll be teamed up with Barrel-Roll. (I painted Resolute 5 pack Duke with Brown hair) They look like twins so I may do a head swap. These ROC/POC characters require so much name changing Rank changes, Don't know where to begin. |
10-10-2009, 11:39 AM | #9443 |
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Awesome! Bench Press looks like a cool figure. I'll get one off ebay eventually. Don't really know what a combat specialist is either but in my 'verse he'll be one of the elite trainers.
The way I have it is when a Joe rookie is accepted into Joint Operation Exercise (J.O.E) training they go through certain phases of training. Phase 1 They get sent to Sgt Slaughter and his Marauders (new characters in my verse). Under the Sarge, they learn individual and small team skills. Each of them would have different ways of moving in combat etc. Basically they get taught Delta / SAS style training how to move as one, two, four, eight, sixteen man teams etc. They also learn field craft, mountaineering, underwater egress escape, basic - intermediate survival, weapons handling etc. All operators and support staff go through this training so if a guy like the comic Shareware has to go on a snatch and grab mission he won't be a liability to the other joes. Phase 2 Still under the Sarge and his team, recruits learn combat diving, defensive driving, air assault, paratrooping (all joes have to be basic static line to qualify), covert ops, languages, sere, expert survival, acting, basic small craft handling etc. Those recruits who have already qualified in certain skills help the trainers. The head trainers are still the Marauders but most classes are taught by off mission joes (so Outback would teach survival skills, Lowlight sniper and counter sniper ops, etc) I divide my joes into troops (Air/Sea/Land/Mountain) like the SAS and they rotate through the different skill sets regularly. Phase 3 This is where recruits either get thrown to Beach Head and get code names if they don't already have one. They're still green shirts but name green shirts. Beach Head then takes them out on actual missions and eventually they get rotated into one of the troops. Those are the shooters, the support guys go to their respective support NCOs and learn more there. For example, the IT guys learn how to make "Macguyver" stuff etc. Haven't pinned down where the Steel Brigade training stops and where Joes continue yet. Maybe half way through phase 2. Also, Joes rotating back into mission readiness have to do an abridged phase 1 and get to learn extra skills in Phase 2. I'll probably make Bench Press one of Beach Head's training leaders (along with Sgt Stone) |
10-10-2009, 12:15 PM | #9444 |
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Originally Posted by Tyroc
Don't really know what a combat specialist is either but in my 'verse he'll be one of the elite trainers.
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Originally Posted by tanksmasher
Realistically martial artists get their asses handed to them in close quarter fighting--not always, but mostly....
... Like zulu said, most martial arts are arts and not necessarily the best form of hand-to-hand combat. Brazilian Jujitsu and Muay Thai kickboxing seem to make up the dominant fighting styles because of their emphasis on practical skills and real-life fighting. There are a lot of professional and semi-professional fighters out there, in boxing, MMA, and Muay Thai, who have received much more formal training and have loads more natural and acquired physical skills than most successful pro fighters, but they just can't "get over the hump," so to speak. And that has to do with tying everything together and focusing on the goal of beating one's opponent above everything else (the "killer instinct," if you will). I think formal martial arts training and repeated sparring can help hone that instinct, but I don't think it's a guaranteed effect of formal training. I remember attending a Pekiti-Tirsia Kali (the martial art that forms the base of contemporary Philippine Special Forces combatives) demonstration once at Fort Bonifacio in the Philippines. You had these guys who've spent years practicing all these advanced techniques demonstrating their blade mastery and elite disarming techniques. In the crowd, though, were a couple of Scout Rangers and they had that look on their faces that said "nice, but not really useful." Those guys were probably low-ranked or even unranked kali/escrima/arnis practitioners (I don't know where an active-duty Scout Ranger would find the time to focus on individual martial arts training) but I'd bet you that in a knockdown drag-out fight, they'd probably beat the stuffing out of a "training hall" Pekiti-Tirsia Kali expert. They had that grizzled, "I've gutted a man with my itak" look on their faces. Last edited by zuludelta; 10-10-2009 at 12:30 PM.. |
10-10-2009, 12:20 PM | #9445 |
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Nice Tyroc. THat's awesome. So when you say the Marauders are all new characters who is that?
I knwo we've done this before but who are all of the Joe Trainers? Rock'n'Roll Snake Eyes Gung-Ho Leatherneck Sgt. Slaughter Beachhead Outback Iceberg Snow-Job Recondo and Mutt and Wreckage more or less Lowlight The Fridge Hot Seat Blizzard Budo Deep-Six Grid-Iron CrossHairs Hollow-Point Barrel-Roll Major Barrage Med Alert and SGT Stone Benchpress by name alone, but he's clearly a Rock'n'Roll wannabe. |
10-10-2009, 03:16 PM | #9446 |
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Some of the shared names between G.I.Joe and Transformers are the following:
Blaster Gears Mirage Outback Sideswipe Skydive Crosshairs Dogfight Mainframe Windmill Countdown Shockwave Overkill Roadblock Airwave Barricade Blast Off Space Shot |
10-10-2009, 05:17 PM | #9447 |
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Back in April and May there was a brief series on the Spike Channel called the Deadliest Warrior. For some time I have been wanting to do a post on it,but was never sure how to make it G.I.Joe related. The other day I noticed that the Spike Channel is rerunning the Dealiest Warrior series. With G.I.Joe The Rise of Cobra coming out in a few weeks,maybe I can make it connect.
The deadliest warrior that G.I.Joe has is Snake Eyes and the deadliest warrior that Cobra has is Storm Shadow. In a fight to the death the out come could go either way if they catch their opponent in a lucky move. On the Deadliest Warrior,a Special Forces guy,a computer programmer and a trauma doctor got together with various experts on some of histories deadliest warriors. They collected all the data on the various weapons that they would use and created a computer simulation on how they would do in a battle to the death. A lot of these warriors would never have faced each other due to the time difference. The warriors they used are as follows: Apache verses a Gladiator Ninja verse a Spartan Shaolin Monk verse a Maori Warrior Samurai verses a Viking Knight verses a Pirate William Wallace verses Shaaka Zulu Mafia verses the Japanese version Green Beret verse Spetsnaz or maybe G.I.Joe verse Oktober Guard The organization that the British fought in Irland verse the organization we are fighting in Afganastan. So how would the members of G.I.Joe do against the members of Cobra in one on one combat? |
10-10-2009, 08:35 PM | #9448 |
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Trainers, thanks to Half the Battle: Indexes # Training Rock 'n Roll (physical training instructor) # The Fridge (physical training instructor) # Major Barrage (physical fitness instructor) # Med Alert (Tai Chi Chuan instructor) # Snake Eyes (hand-to-hand combat instructor) # Budo (hand-to-hand combat instructor) # Storm Shadow (martial arts instructor) # Wet Down (martial arts instructor) # Dojo (Kung-Fu instructor) # Nunchuk (self-defense instuctor) # G.I. Joe (combat infantry [training and intelligence]) # Snow Job (rifle instructor) # Tiger Claw (weapons instructor) # Low-Light (marksmanship instructor) # Volga (marksmanship instructor) # Cross Hair (marksmanship instructor) # Barrel Roll (marksmanship instructor) # Hollow Point (marksmanship instructor) # Gung-Ho (recondo instructor, jungle warfare training instructor) # Wreckage (jungle warfare instructor) # Sgt. Slaughter (drill instructor, survival trainer) # Leatherneck (drill sergeant, Marine drill sergeant, infantry/training specialist, weapons & tactics instructor) # Hot Seat (drill instructor) # Outback (survival training instructor) # Iceberg (cold weather survival instructor) # Blizzard (arctic warfare training instructor) # Windchill (cold weather survival instructor) # Snow Storm (arctic warfare training instructor, cold weather survival instructor) # Bushido (snow ninja, cold weather specialist) # Torpedo (diving instructor) # Deep Six (underwater demolitions instructor) # Agent Faces (language instructor) |
10-10-2009, 08:57 PM | #9449 |
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nice lists BCross and Tyroc. I purposely left off the Ninjas. But I forgot a few of the snow guys.
Didn't know about a Roadblock in Transformers. |
10-10-2009, 09:22 PM | #9450 |
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Sgt Slaughter - Sgt Smasher (PT and Personal Combat Instructor) BBQ - Fail Safe (EOD and Hostile Environment trainer) Spirit - Venture (Field Craft, Navigation instructor) Foot Loose - Run Down (Fire and Maneuvers / Jump Instructor) Lowlight - Exit Wound (Weapons and Handling Instructor) Mutt - Hound (SERE specialist) I also have plans for a few Marauders customs Fair Child (SERE specialist / Covert ops/ Acting trainer) Rocky (PT / Combat and Motivational Instructor) |
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