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09-21-2009, 01:18 PM | #9241 |
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It's the same for the Marines. The USMC brass resisted creating a MARSOC component to join USSOCOM for the longest time. The old USMC leadership always struck me as a no-bullshit crew. They reasoned that there were no real operational benefits to permanently committing sizable numbers of men and equipment to USSOCOM, the Marine Corps is pretty much a self-contained "SOCOM" in itself, and they already contributed to USSOCOM via NAVSPECWARCOM-attached Reconnaissance Man-qualified individual augmentees, anyway. But I think the newer and younger guys at the head of the USMC organization started becoming a tad envious of their USSOCOM-vetted peers, both professionally and from a budgetary standpoint. Hence the relatively new MARSOC. The funny thing is that a lot of the new papers and "studies" that came out from the USAFSOS and JSOU post-MARSOC creation were themed around justifying how MARSOC is not a redundant component of USSOCOM. They're still churning out those papers three years on. I don't know who they're trying to convince, themselves or the outside community. I believe in what USSOCOM is trying to do, but at the same time, I'm not blind to the fact that it's grown to be quite inefficient from an organizational management perspective and plagued with petty inter-departmental shenanigans as any large bureaucracy is prone to be. And while I don't agree with everything the following article says (Carlton Meyer has a spotty record for checking his sources), this editorial from G2Mil pretty much sums up what I think is wrong with how USSOCOM is being run right now: The Magazine of Future Warfare But as a wise man once said "It's all about the benjamins." Last edited by zuludelta; 09-21-2009 at 01:27 PM.. |
09-21-2009, 01:24 PM | #9242 |
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Hey where is Troynos? I have not seen a post from him in days..... Is he okay or on vacation?
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09-21-2009, 01:29 PM | #9243 |
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I think he started a new job or something, he mentioned something about not being able to post as much because he's busy in "the real world."
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09-21-2009, 01:30 PM | #9244 |
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Ah, gotcha. Okay..... kinda missed him around here the last few days.
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09-21-2009, 01:31 PM | #9245 |
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09-21-2009, 01:32 PM | #9246 |
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Okay, here's another weird one:
1993's Robo-Joe and Lifeline v5 (from 2002) have the same file name: Greg Scott. I guess Robo-Joe got a massive meat parts transplant |
09-21-2009, 01:49 PM | #9247 |
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It's that big scary place between the house and Toys-R-Us
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09-21-2009, 04:20 PM | #9248 |
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Good little article Zulu, I need to read all the links in there as well. I just wonder how efficient SOCOM is when they coordinate between branches. Say a SEAL team needs a rescue and the Rangers are busy or the PJs don't get the message? I would hope its better coordinated than that but I bet not. And then how do they interact with other coalition forces? I know one of the biggest problems for most Coalition Forces is they really don't have the money to field air support of their own so they don't undertake the more dangerous missions.
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09-21-2009, 04:30 PM | #9249 |
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G2mil is a decent site for military info, but make sure you have your bullshit-detector turned on when perusing the articles there. While I think the site's proprietor (a former US Marine Corps officer) has his heart in the right place, some of his assertions aren't really backed up by solid evidence or data (and some of the data he cites as evidence, particularly with technical matters, has been called into question more than a few times).
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09-21-2009, 09:19 PM | #9250 |
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I wonder if Marines are even invited to Selection for Delta or DevGru? I read "The Killer Elite" about the history of the Intelligence Support Activity and one of it's earliest officers was a USMC Intel Officer. It would seem that both Delta and Devgru could find some very capable personnel if they recruited from the Marines... my understanding is that CIA/SAD recruits from Force Recon fairly regularly.
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