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09-19-2009, 02:03 PM | #9191 |
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Here's a brief rundown of the units that make up each component: ARSOC:
MARSOC:
AFSOC:
NAVSPECWARCOM:
Besides the four branch-specific components of USSOCOM, there's also JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command), an elite component of the already elite USSOCOM, tasked specifically with counterterrorism, hostage rescue, special reconnaissance, and other high-risk special operations. JSOC:
Hope that helps explain it to you. Last edited by zuludelta; 09-21-2009 at 11:15 PM.. Reason: edited for formatting |
09-19-2009, 03:00 PM | #9192 |
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Additionally, USSOCOM makes a distinction between "Special Forces" (SF) and "Special Operations Forces" (SOF). The traditional distinction is that SF are trained specifically in the conduct of unconventional warfare, whilst SOF specialize in conventional rapid deployment light infantry-style raids and movements in support of special operations. In practice though, there's a lot of cross-over in terms of what SF and SOF units do.
Here's a list of the units USSOCOM lists as falling under the SF designation:
And here's a list of the units USSOCOM designates as SOF:
All the other units in USSOCOM qualify as special operations support. Last edited by zuludelta; 09-19-2009 at 03:11 PM.. |
09-19-2009, 03:37 PM | #9193 |
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The USSOCOM label can be a bit misleading, though. A lot of people think that just because a unit has been seconded to USSOCOM, it is automatically better than non-USSOCOM units.
There are many non-USSOCOM units that are airborne-qualified, receive just as much specialist training as their USSOCOM counterparts, and are in many ways special operations-capable. Here's a list of the parachutist-capable non-USSOCOM units that I think are comparable to USSOCOM units in terms of specialist training rigor:
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09-19-2009, 04:16 PM | #9194 |
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Thats a lot of information and I appreciate it. It certainly helps me out, thank you....
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09-19-2009, 06:26 PM | #9195 |
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What's Up with Ripcord's RoC File Cards. On the File card for the Accelerator Suit Ripcord he's listed as an E-8 Master Sergeant. On the Reactive Armor Ripcord he's listed as an E-4 Sergeant (which is wrong in itself). And in the "Rise of Cobra Dossier" Ripcord, who espires to be a Pilot, is listed as a Lieutenant which makes sense because you have to be commissioned in order to fly in the Military. Plus if Duke is a Captain/Major it would make more sense for them to be friends. E-4 is not a Sergeant that is usually a Specialist or Corporal. So... which is it???
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09-19-2009, 06:35 PM | #9196 |
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What's Up with Ripcord's RoC File Cards. On the File card for the Accelerator Suit Ripcord he's listed as an E-8 Master Sergeant. On the Reactive Armor Ripcord he's listed as an E-4 Sergeant (which is wrong in itself). And in the "Rise of Cobra Dossier" Ripcord, who espires to be a Pilot, is listed as a Lieutenant which makes sense because you have to be commissioned in order to fly in the Military.
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09-19-2009, 06:51 PM | #9197 |
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What's Up with Ripcord's RoC File Cards. On the File card for the Accelerator Suit Ripcord he's listed as an E-8 Master Sergeant. On the Reactive Armor Ripcord he's listed as an E-4 Sergeant (which is wrong in itself). And in the "Rise of Cobra Dossier" Ripcord, who espires to be a Pilot, is listed as a Lieutenant which makes sense because you have to be commissioned in order to fly in the Military. Plus if Duke is a Captain/Major it would make more sense for them to be friends. E-4 is not a Sergeant that is usually a Specialist or Corporal. So... which is it???
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I can't remember what rank insignia he's shown wearing in the flashback scene in the film (the one where Duke proposes to Anna). I think he had sergeant's chevrons, but it's been a while since I saw the movie. But if that's the case, I think it's reasonable to assume he's a Master Sergeant by the time he and Duke join the Joe team.
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09-19-2009, 09:10 PM | #9198 |
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In G.I.Joe The Rise of Cobra the technicians in the Missile control room wore red uniforms. In a split second after Breaker and Scarlett invaded the room,one of those technicians looked like Banjamin Sisko of Star Trek Deep Space 9.
In the book,while Duke and the Baroness were in the Mantis, Baroness had the Doctor`s PDA(?) and terminating all the Neo Vipers. |
09-19-2009, 09:39 PM | #9199 |
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The USSOCOM label can be a bit misleading, though. A lot of people think that just because a unit has been seconded to USSOCOM, it is automatically better than non-USSOCOM units.
There are many non-USSOCOM units that are airborne-qualified, receive just as much specialist training as their USSOCOM counterparts, and are in many ways special operations-capable. Here's a list of the parachutist-capable non-USSOCOM units that I think are comparable to USSOCOM units in terms of specialist training rigor:
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09-19-2009, 10:03 PM | #9200 |
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That doesn't mean that Active Army soldiers weren't trained at the DLI prior to the change, though. All it means is that they didn't receive official status as translators/interpreters MOS-wise or pay-wise. SF sends their soldiers to DLI for functional language training all the time, and qualified personnel (regardless of MOS) can be sent to DLI as required or on the recommendation of their commanders. Last edited by zuludelta; 09-19-2009 at 10:27 PM.. |
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