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09-16-2009, 08:33 PM | #9101 |
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Well Larry Hama wrote all the filecards originally. He's the Godfather. It's his baby. Later when Hasbro got a Cartoon syndication they adapted what was originally the Comic to suit their needs.
Which came first the orignal 13 figures or the Comic not sure. I think they went hand in hand though. Like they told Larry what they wanted (Hasbro + Marvel) and he pulled it off. I think the problem arose really with Duke in that he was a Hasbro Creation that Larry had to use when he already had a Blonde Team Leader in Hawk. Hasbro does a huge Mail away figure for Duke and puts him in the cartoons. Hawk is left out of the Cartoons entirely until season 3. But Hawk is a much more prominent character than Duke in the Comic. I think Duke has always been the field Commander, but Duke is a Sgt. Hawk is a General. That issue just has Duke as the designated Field Commander, because I think Hasbro thought with all the new figures coming out the old ones had to be retired. Luckily Larry kept them all around for future Use. I think later what you have is the team got so big they really need more than one field commander. Stalker has always been that guy for Larry. Later they added Falcon somewhat and Flint sort of confuses the issue as well. Looking back Hawk needed an officer as his XO and he never had one. Scarlett should have probably been an officer as well. And Gung-Ho due to his rank should have made another Field Commander as well. In addition to Stalker. (They did this in DDP which I loved). Make mine Hawk! |
09-16-2009, 08:39 PM | #9102 |
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So when the team was put behind a desk (the original 13) were they infact a higher grade than what their filecards established them to originally be?
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09-16-2009, 08:42 PM | #9103 |
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In the comic book, yeah, but I don't know if the actual figures (those that had new figures around that time) got promotions as well.
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09-16-2009, 08:42 PM | #9104 |
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I don't think they intended it work that way. In the Navy SEALs, they have subject matter experts(SMEs). Every enlisted man and any 3rd O's are supposed to be become experts in a particular field. That way when they are planning missions, someone's there who can help them plan out needs and contengencies. Even as SMEs, they still have to follow chain of command on mission.
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09-16-2009, 10:52 PM | #9105 |
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Loose, I just got home from work about an hour ago, and I'm going to have to work through Lunch tomorrow (Thursday)... sorry. How's Friday for you?
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09-16-2009, 10:55 PM | #9106 |
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Takes time to put a TPB together, too, particularly if it's not material that's been printed in that format before. I'll happily wait as long as they're coming.
If it's 3 TPBs and they stick to the ten issue format, I wonder what they'd pad out the third one with? Or would they break them up into smaller chunks?
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09-16-2009, 10:57 PM | #9107 |
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In the Infantry E-4 is different from SPC-4. E-4 is a corporal, and is considered an NCO. It's like the difference between First Sgt. and Master SGT. They are the same pay grade, but one is a command slot.
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09-17-2009, 12:07 AM | #9108 |
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Enlisted: Private 1 (PV1) E-1 Private 2 (PV2) E-2 Private first class (PFC) E-3 Specialist 4 (SP4) E-4 Corporal (CPL) E-4 Specialist 5 (SP5) E-5 Sergeant (SGT) E-5 Specialist 6 (SP6) E-6 Staff Sergeant (SSG) E-6 Specialist 7 (SP7) E-7 Sergeant first class (SFC) E-7 Platoon Sergeant (PSG) E-7 Master Sergeant (MSG) E-8 1st Sergeant (1SG) E-8 Sergeant Major (SGM) E-9 Command Sergeant Major (CSM) E-9 Last edited by Tanksmasher; 09-17-2009 at 12:09 AM.. |
09-17-2009, 12:08 AM | #9109 |
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Happy belated Birthday, Oliver! Only 30! You're just a young buck.
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09-17-2009, 12:36 AM | #9110 |
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SP4 is no longer is use. The Army stopped using it by 1985. Prior to then and during the Vietnam War, they used the following ranks.
Enlisted: Private 1 (PV1) E-1 Private 2 (PV2) E-2 Private first class (PFC) E-3 Specialist 4 (SP4) E-4 Corporal (CPL) E-4 Specialist 5 (SP5) E-5 Sergeant (SGT) E-5 Specialist 6 (SP6) E-6 Staff Sergeant (SSG) E-6 Specialist 7 (SP7) E-7 Sergeant first class (SFC) E-7 Platoon Sergeant (PSG) E-7 Master Sergeant (MSG) E-8 1st Sergeant (1SG) E-8 Sergeant Major (SGM) E-9 Command Sergeant Major (CSM) E-9 http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r600_20.pdf page 10
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