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06-19-2009, 10:53 AM | #6981 |
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Very cool, Zulu. The insignia looks like the real deal.
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06-19-2009, 11:01 AM | #6982 |
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Thanks guys!
Oh, I'm keeping the beret flash/shoulder sleeve insignia along with the distinctive unit insignia. I just didn't bother re-posting the flash/SSI because it's basically unchanged from the prototype I previewed a page back. The only thing I didn't make for the Joe team is a coat of arms, since only only units battalion-sized or larger are authorized one, although exceptions can be made. I might make one ventually, but it's ot as much a priority as the flash/SSI and DUI. |
06-19-2009, 12:52 PM | #6983 |
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That flash kicks major ass. I love it. It's awesome. Can tell you put the research time into it.
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06-19-2009, 07:39 PM | #6984 |
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I was thinking the other day about which Joes must have been Boy Scouts. (The largest paramilitary organization in the world)Only Footloose comes to mind. But I feel like so many of them must have been Boy Scouts. So two questions.
1. How many military men were once Boy Scouts? 2. How many of you were Boy Scouts? |
06-19-2009, 10:17 PM | #6985 |
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I was thinking the other day about which Joes must have been Boy Scouts. (The largest paramilitary organization in the world)Only Footloose comes to mind. But I feel like so many of them must have been Boy Scouts. So two questions.
1. How many military men were once Boy Scouts? 2. How many of you were Boy Scouts? Friday would be "scouting day," and we'd all go to school wearing our scout uniforms and our afternoon classes would be cancelled in place of scouting classes (mostly arts & crafts lessons & basic outdoor survival/fieldcraft). The only reason not to be in the Scouts if you were enrolled in a public elementary school in my hometown was if your religious beliefs specifically forbade it (as it is with some of the more devout Jehovah's Witnesses who consider scouting as a form of military service). Our city had a proud scouting tradition that dated back to the Philippine Council of the 1920s (a youth civic organization established by Chinese, American, and Filipino community leaders back when the Philippines was still an American colony) and the youth guerilla groups that fought against the Japanese Imperial Army in World War II. I was a KAB Scout until I was 10 (KAB stood for Kabataang Alay sa Bayan, which translates literally to "Youth Offered Up to the Nation"). Past the age of 10 years, public school kids then joined the "proper" Boy Scouts, where membership was practically compulsory until the age of 12. The progression of mandatory civic and national service for the publicly-educated male Philippine citizen when I was growing up was this (all of this could be bypassed if one went to private educational institutions): age 6 to 10: KAB Scouts age 10 to 12: Boy Scouts age 15 to 16: CAT (Citizen's Army Training -- "compulsory" only in public high schools meeting a minimum enrollment figure) age 16 to 18: CMT (Citizen's Military Training -- "compulsory" only in the sense that graduation from the 2-year CMT curriculum is required for graduation from any bachelor's degree granting institution recognized by the government. Obviously, this requirement can be postponed indefinitely contingent upon a college or university student's graduation from his educational institution... the janitor who used to work at my grade school was a brilliant & eloquent man, smarter than some of the actual teachers in my school but he couldn't get his degree -- I think it was in Art Education or something similar -- because he kept failing the CMT curriculum, and he was already in his 30s, so he'd been trying off and on for probably at least a decade). Anyway, I think it's different in the Philippines now, I haven't visited there in almost a decade, but from what I hear, mandatory civic and national paramilitary service has practically been scrapped for all intents and purposes (partially because the whole thing has been infliltrated by corrupt government officials and industry syndicates). Last edited by zuludelta; 06-19-2009 at 10:19 PM.. |
06-20-2009, 10:29 AM | #6986 |
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I figure some of the Joes had to be Boy Scouts. Almost gurantee that Duke was (unless you go by the DDP "origin" with his peace-loving father who wouldn't have gone for his boy in the Boy Scouts).
The better question might be, who of the Joes was an Eagle Scout (much harder to be and more selective)? I think Skidmark was an Eagle Scout. His card talks about all these driving laws he broke when got his liscense and being such a proper kid when growing up, almost seems he'd be the perfect Scout. I had a friend that did a fake bomb threat in school back in the 8th grade (I'm 35 so this was the 80s and bomb threats weren't big deals back then) and as part of his community service he had to join the Scouts and become an Eagle Scout. So I think Skidmark could have been forced into being an Eagle Scout. I wasn't a Boy Scout.
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06-20-2009, 10:37 AM | #6987 |
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I figure almost all of the "outdoorsy" Joes were Scouts at some point. How big is the scouting presence on Native American reservations? I could certainly see Spirit taking part in it.
Duke would have certainly been a scout, even with the peacnik father. (Who would have been a beatnik, if we use the Joes as Nam Vets story) As much as the Scouts ARE very paramilitary, they focus alot of their PR on being very nature oriented. I'm sure Scarlett and Lady Jaye were Girl Scouts. |
06-20-2009, 10:50 AM | #6988 |
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I think Skidmark was an Eagle Scout. His card talks about all these driving laws he broke when got his liscense and being such a proper kid when growing up, almost seems he'd be the perfect Scout. I had a friend that did a fake bomb threat in school back in the 8th grade (I'm 35 so this was the 80s and bomb threats weren't big deals back then) and as part of his community service he had to join the Scouts and become an Eagle Scout. So I think Skidmark could have been forced into being an Eagle Scout. I wasn't a Boy Scout. Further I'm not sure how Skidmark qualifies, exactly? Because he was a good kid prior to getting his driver's license...?
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06-20-2009, 01:21 PM | #6989 |
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I was a Scout for a couple of years, but the Scouting program in my hometown wasn't very organized, so I quit. now, as a father, I've been involved with my son's Scout troop and have gone to Scout camp with them. I actually wish I'd been more involved as a kid, but c'est la vie.
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06-20-2009, 02:13 PM | #6990 |
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I'm an Eagle Scout, and much of this quote doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me; how can community service "order" someone to become an Eagle Scout? Even if done as fast as possible the process takes at least a couple of years, and you can't just become one because the court ordered you to...you'd still have to earn it. Not to mention that the BSA is a private organization and the court couldn't force them to accept a kid and make sure he became one. Not saying he couldn't have become one, at all, but he would've had to earn it and it would have to be a lot more voluntary and a lot more work than that paragraph made it sound.
Further I'm not sure how Skidmark qualifies, exactly? Because he was a good kid prior to getting his driver's license...? Or maybe that's just what he said cause he didn't think it would be cool to tell us he was doing it because he wanted to? Meant that Skidmark seemed the type that would have been in the Scouts and excelled at it, well growing up.
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