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06-07-2009, 12:21 PM | #6661 |
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Thinking purely in practical terms, I think a good place to station a rapid reaction force would be somewhere on or near the Pacific coast, with reasonable access to a major port and harbour. Why the west coast and not the east? No hurricanes and generally milder weather.
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06-07-2009, 12:45 PM | #6662 |
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Thinking purely in practical terms, I think a good place to station a rapid reaction force would be somewhere on or near the Pacific coast, with reasonable access to a major port and harbour. Why the west coast and not the east? No hurricanes and generally milder weather.
But then you deal with snow. And snow on a base of this size would be a NIGHTMARE. A harbor is the one thing I haven't included, but now I'm wondering if I should, just to make it an all-around self-sufficient base. Harbor's have big security risks, lots of unpatrolable open area (underwater) for infiltrators to come in thru. If I did a harbor, it would be a wall within a wall kind of thing. A harbor would also make it easier to get supplies in and out of the fort.
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06-07-2009, 01:53 PM | #6663 |
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Base placement is a pretty big question. I'm going to have to go with Virginia... near Norfolk. It's a big bay, and it's close to Washington. They get bad weather from time to time, but it's not nearly as bad as the Carolinas. Just my opinion... but it would be easier to "hide" their stuff among the other military equipment.
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06-07-2009, 02:01 PM | #6664 |
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About having a Chapel on Post... I think it's certainly within the realm of reason. Nearly every Military post has a chapel. Heck, at the Naval Academy, the Chapel is one of the focal points of campus. Regardless of which faith group uses it, it is perfectly reasonable for the Joe base to have a Chapel. By law, every service member has a right to practice their faith, and the government provides facilities and chaplains to do that. The Army Chaplain Corps was established by George Washington himself. I'm not talking religion; I'm simply stating regulations and history.
Base Chapels are often used by different faith groups, especially when the base is small. However, at larger posts like Ft. Bragg, there are a lot of chapels and different denominations are assigned to different buildings. This is just easier so each group can sort of have a "home base" on Post, and they don't have to put up and take down their stuff before and after services every time. So I think it would be a great idea, Troynos, if you wanted to put a Chapel on your Post. I know, I know... the Mods. Well, first of all the Mods need to read their Army Regulations, because that's what we're talking about here. Secondly, I think the mods need to start enforcing the first 8 rules on this forum before they start jumping right to rule #9.
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06-07-2009, 02:46 PM | #6665 |
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From a mission standpoint, which makes sense. Which coast is "closer" to all the action?
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06-07-2009, 02:48 PM | #6666 |
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Now do I make the chapel a stand alone building or a set of rooms inside one of the main buildings?
I'm debating the idea of having a harbor now. I know it makes putting a location harder, would have to find a large expanse of undeveloped coast that could put a base of this size on and not have it be near anything. Or could just throw that "real" out the window and just plop it along the coast somewhere and not pin an exact location down.
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06-07-2009, 04:18 PM | #6667 |
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I think there is a lot of undeveloped coast. Eastern Shore Virginia is so underdeveloped it's astonishing. There is actually a NASA rocket testing facility out there. Makes a good cover and is only about 1 hour by car from Norfolk maybe a 15-20 minute by helicopter. but the Deserts out west provide that wide open spaces that are easy to defend.
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06-07-2009, 04:26 PM | #6668 |
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Damn, I think I just added a ton more work for myself.
There's also nothing that says the Harbor has to be included within the main base footprint or even at the same level, it could be 100 feet below and sheltered in it's own cove, with lifts and such to get to the main level. Or it could be a mile or two away.
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06-07-2009, 04:49 PM | #6669 |
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Why not two bases? I think keep Ft Hama out West, but they could easily make use of what ever facilities are necessary.
There would have to be various teams tied to certain regions or operating with foreign elements or stationed at existing facilites or embassies. To be closer to the action: I see a Flagg stationed in the Indian Ocean. Eventually a permanent Airbase would need to be established but this would be a job for the regular Army and the Airforce. (ie Da Nang) Then two Artillery bases, with smaller bases that would be for training locals. (Camp Carroll and the Rockpile) But if the joes were the first team in, Sky Patrol (about 20 men)would be dropped behind enemy lines somewhere where there is high ground, and lots of visibilty. And dig in. Then like issue #24 they would drop in the HQ modular system and some artillery and Whirlwinds. Bulldozers and engineers (Tollbooth and Hardtop) would be dropped in to build a small airfield and Helicopter landing area. At this point the rest of the force would be brought in to help finish construction and establish the perimeter and start patrols if they are that close to the action. This way alot of equipment gets used. Heavy Armor may be out. |
06-07-2009, 05:00 PM | #6670 |
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There's Fort Hama, and a couple of smaller permenant bases in Thule and South America. There will be 2 JHSV (one in the Pacific and one in the Atlantic). On board those will be the Delta Teams (the black ops guys, the first guys in, recon, etc..).
I don't think the Joes have their own aircraft carrier, but maybe there's one that is in the pacific/indian ocean area that is tasked to them, meaning it's not permenantly a Joe vessel but when Hawk pulls the trigger they have access to it for whatever they need. They'll make use of friendly bases along the way in getting from Fort Hama to wherever they need to be. Quote:
Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
But if the joes were the first team in, Sky Patrol (about 20 men)would be dropped behind enemy lines somewhere where there is high ground, and lots of visibilty. And dig in.
Then like issue #24 they would drop in the HQ modular system and some artillery and Whirlwinds. Bulldozers and engineers (Tollbooth and Hardtop) would be dropped in to build a small airfield and Helicopter landing area. At this point the rest of the force would be brought in to help finish construction and establish the perimeter and start patrols if they are that close to the action. I'm still liking the idea of the nearby harbor facility, especially with the Joes having their own JHSV vessels. Having it close to Fort Hama makes it easier to keep secure, easier to resupply the Fort and the ships and easier to move personal and equipment around. Also could see the Joes having an old cargo ship sitting at the Harbor waiting to load up with equipment and such at a moment's notice.
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