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05-31-2009, 02:37 PM | #6241 |
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In the contemporary Stryker Brigade light infantry company (which is the standard infatry organization model these days), every rifle squad has at least one soldier carrying a light anti-tank weapon (an M72 or M136 or even a Javelin missile), thus obviating the need for a dedicated anti-armor section to travel with the rilfe platoon. Ranger doctrine is different. Ranger companies have a dedicated weapons platoon where all the anti-armor and mortar assets are, thus freeing up the rifle platoons and allowing them to be more mobile. The Ranger weapons platoon is either used as a stand-alone unit, or its elements can be redistributed and attached to the rifle platoons as necessary. |
05-31-2009, 02:45 PM | #6242 |
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SF is sort of like the Lacrosse Team... Lacrosse is a tough sport, and you gotta be really athletic and everyone knows it's cool - but the main sport is Football. The Infantry is like Football in the Army...
... So if the Army is High School, the Combat Branches are the Jocks and the Infantry is the Football Team. Does that make sense? MP's are like hall monitors... no body likes those suck ups. Transportation and Ordinance (Logistics) are like the guys in Shop Class and VOTECH. They're not nerds, but they're not Jocks and nobody really knows where they hang out after school or on the weekends. They're probably smoking behind the school. Intel guys are often like the Art class kids or Band Nerds. They're pretty smart, and sometimes they're really cool. Sometimes they're just History nerds. Sometimes they even pick up chicks, and maybe they can even fight because they're into Martial arts in their spare time. Maybe they even swim or run Cross-Country or something, but they're not really cool like the team sport jocks art cool. All other staff officers pretty much fall into the category of some kind of nerd. Finance guys are Math nerds. Chemical Corps are science nerds. JAG are the kids who are really into Student Government. And the AG Corps are the Social Studies nerds who really want to be office monitors. Quote:
So if you're Grid-Iron, and you've been a high achiever your whole life, all your training is going to tell you: Get in the Infantry, Excel in the Infantry, and STAY in the Infantry!
... The issue is that Grid-Iron would think that AG was below his stature, and he would have been trained to think that way by the Army, starting at West Point. All his buddies from school would think that way. So it's not so much that I think Grid-Iron is too good to be an AG officer. |
05-31-2009, 02:56 PM | #6243 |
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Sounds like Courage would make a good addition as a S-1 officer. Grid-Iron could posssibly be the Direct Action Assistant Element Leader. But after this we have *got* to stop adding characters. I'm obviously guilty of it too, but poor zulu will never finish it at this rate. :P
Well, maybe Courage and Dodger. But that's it, lol. |
05-31-2009, 03:02 PM | #6244 |
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Yeah the Stryker Brigade Combat Team seems to be the direction that everything is headed, where one rifleman in the squad carries some kind of LAW and the other rifleman is the DM or Designated Marksman. However, the Ranger's Weapons Platoon is a valuable element. It contains an anti-armor section and mortar section but I'm confused as to whether it now contains a sniper section. Several sources conflict over this. Some say the sniper section is part of the Weapons Platoon and some say it is part of the Company HQ. Any ideas?
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05-31-2009, 03:10 PM | #6245 |
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It's both. An STA sniper team is assigned to rifle company headquarters, and an STA sniper team will occasionally be attached to a rifle platoon, manpower resources willing.
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05-31-2009, 03:13 PM | #6246 |
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So the sniper section is not organic to the weapons platoon, it's just "attached" if desired? Does the company just have two 2-man sniper sections to dole out?
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05-31-2009, 03:17 PM | #6247 |
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I also wonder why there are sometimes 3-man sniper teams. I've seen this in places in the FM and many might not know this but the two Delta snipers--Shughart and Gordon--that were killed defending Michael Durant's Blackhawk were part of a 3-man sniper team. The third sniper was manning the mini-gun of their Blackhawk due to a crew chief's injury so he was not deployed on the ground with the others.
I wonder how much longer they could have survived with a third sniper or even another sniper section in the area. |
05-31-2009, 03:23 PM | #6248 |
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Also, are we talking about a Ranger rifle company or an SBCT rifle company? Ranger companies have a two or three man sniper team assigned to company headquarters, and they'll occasionally have a sniper team assigned to a rifle platoon if their resources allow for it and if the mission calls for them (these snipers aren't taken from external sources, though, they're sniper-qualified infantrymen whom the company can temporary afford to free from their rifleman roles for the duration of a particular mission or operation). With the SBCT rifle companies, the designated marksmen/squad advanced marksmen found in each squad have basically supplanted the need for multiple dedicated sniper teams, so they only need the one sniper team assigned to company headquarters. |
05-31-2009, 03:30 PM | #6249 |
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I guess I simply wanted to know if the standard Ranger Weapons Platoon consists of a sniper section as well as an anti-armor and mortar section because in some manuals the sniper section is omitted.
I was also surprised to see that an SBCT company has only one sniper team, considering how valuable snipers can be. You'd think a company would have several sections to deploy for platoon support. |
05-31-2009, 03:32 PM | #6250 |
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Sounds like Courage would make a good addition as a S-1 officer. Grid-Iron could posssibly be the Direct Action Assistant Element Leader. But after this we have *got* to stop adding characters. I'm obviously guilty of it too, but poor zulu will never finish it at this rate. :P
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I also wonder why there are sometimes 3-man sniper teams
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