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05-28-2009, 12:55 PM | #5861 |
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Larry was doing something new, and his purpose was to tell a story... DDP was doing something different; they were dabbling in nostalgia. I'm interested in reading a story; if I want nostalgia, I'll go to the Smithsonian.
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05-28-2009, 12:57 PM | #5862 |
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Even Hama's other silent issues weren't as good as #21. I'd rank 'em above DDPs still.
Hama used 'em for a storytelling device. DDP did it, like OB said, for nostalgia.
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05-28-2009, 01:02 PM | #5863 |
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But Flint might have become a Secret Agent. His education and training make him a perfect fit for recruitment by the Agency or DIA. I don't think DDP every really understood either of those central characters, and if affected nearly everything else because, let's face it, Duke and Flint are the heart and soul of leadership on the Joe team. Reloaded is garbage. Absolute Crap. Storm Shadow (all 7 issues) was terrible, and completely unnecessary. It's crap and you don't need to waste your time. It was a revamp of everything that went wrong with the Marvel series: Ninjas.
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05-28-2009, 01:09 PM | #5864 |
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Thanks for all the info guys. I really like the path IDW is paving but it still isn't perfect in my mind. I still find little things that annoy me and there is some lack of development. For instance, in the few issues of Origins that we have, Scarlett already considers Snake Eyes to be "3B0"--the Baddest Buttkicker Bar None. But we haven't seen him do anything yet. So far he's survived an explosion and he threw an IV bag at a guy's face! So it seems premature for her to have such a high opinion of him. But overall I'm really enjoying Origins. I kind of wish they would do a Resolute series now.
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05-28-2009, 01:10 PM | #5865 |
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That's an understatement. Rock 'n Roll as a SEaL???? Although I did like Duke being a double agent.
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05-28-2009, 01:15 PM | #5866 |
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Thanks for all the info guys. I really like the path IDW is paving but it still isn't perfect in my mind. I still find little things that annoy me and there is some lack of development. For instance, in the few issues of Origins that we have, Scarlett already considers Snake Eyes to be "3B0"--the Baddest Buttkicker Bar None. But we haven't seen him do anything yet. So far he's survived an explosion and he threw an IV bag at a guy's face! So it seems premature for her to have such a high opinion of him. But overall I'm really enjoying Origins. I kind of wish they would do a Resolute series now.
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05-28-2009, 01:20 PM | #5867 |
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So if you could redo GI Joe, what major elements would you change? Would SE still be mute? Would he always be faceless? If so, how would you change the backstory? And what about the fact that Vietnam can no longer serve as combat experience for a modern series of thirty-something soldiers? Vietnam was very much a character-shaping element in Hama's Joeverse. Sure there's Desert Storm but Vietnam was something bigger, more controversial, and it shadowed American culture like a vulture.
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05-28-2009, 01:23 PM | #5868 |
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Also, I don't see Desert Storm and the current war producing the same kind of soldier that Viet Nam did.
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05-28-2009, 01:24 PM | #5869 |
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Anyway, as I've said before about Falcon, he never got the attention and development as a character that Hasbro intended. Hama didn't like Duke from the start. He felt that Hasbro pushed the character on him, and that he already had Hawk and Stalker... he didn't need some Hawk look-alike doing Stalker's job. DDP used him as an ex-Secret Agent whose rank was now on the GS scale... that's not Duke. I think Hasbro intended him to be an excellent NCO. Stalker wasn't really intended to do that job, but Hama needed a guy for that role in the beginning, and of the characters he had, he chose Stalker and developed him. Like Falcon, if Duke had been written and handled like Hasbro originally intended - as an Airborne Infantry NCO - then we would all probably like him just fine. In fact, we would probably all think of him as one of our favorites. Look at his credentials, Look at his qualifications... the guy won the Medal of Honor. Deep down, I don't think we hate Duke for who he is; I think Hama tricked us all into hating Duke because he found the character inconvenient. If you read the exploits of Duke in the Marvel run, he should have been releaved of duty early on. Hama's Flint was also a real tool/prick. In all honesty, I think the Cartoon was a much better source for Duke and Flint's personalities. They're likable and competent. Hama played favorites. And so, great characters like Duke, Flint, and Falcon end up looking like schmucks in the Marvel run - and on into DDP.
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05-28-2009, 01:26 PM | #5870 |
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So if you could redo GI Joe, what major elements would you change? Would SE still be mute? Would he always be faceless? If so, how would you change the backstory? And what about the fact that Vietnam can no longer serve as combat experience for a modern series of thirty-something soldiers? Vietnam was very much a character-shaping element in Hama's Joeverse. Sure there's Desert Storm but Vietnam was something bigger, more controversial, and it shadowed American culture like a vulture.
And yeah, I'd leave Snake Eyes mute and not show his face. (Or at least have it be more screwed up than MD Bright drew it in the Snake Eyes trilogy)
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