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04-16-2009, 11:35 PM | #4811 |
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Mix of 25th and original. Just happens that what I have in original has been made/will be made in 25th.
I'll probably go after an Interrogator one of these days. Overlord I'm not so sure about... Was after my time and not a big fan of his look. Maybe the Convention Set Overlord... don't mind that one too much. Need to start working on my Oktober Guard as well. Navy and Regular Infantry are where the most week spots are. |
04-17-2009, 12:41 AM | #4812 |
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The list of characters I'm willfully ignoring is basically this: - Battleforce 2000 - Any character introduced after 1988 (nothing against them, I just find it too much trouble to incorporate that many "named" characters... re-writing/factually updating the files alone would be way too much work, not to mention having to do the digital art) - Cobra-La (including Serpentor) - cross-promotional "celebrity" Joes (The Fridge, Sgt. Slaughter) - Taurus and Red Dog - Big Lob - The Iron Grenadiers (Destro, in my mind, has always worked better as a character in the role of the rational counterpart to the impulsive Cobra Commander within the Cobra organization, instead of the leader of his own paramilitary group... it takes him away from his interactions with the rest of the Cobra leadership, where the contrast makes him that much more interesting to me. By himself, he just comes off as bland) Additionally, I'm redesigning most of the armor crewman guys (i.e., Heavy Metal, Frostbite, etc.) as Cavalry Scouts, thus making it more plausible for them to be assigned to a light infantry/spec-ops/recon unit like how I imagine GI Joe to be while still technically falling under the armor branch. The artillery guys (i.e., Thunder, Grand Slam), I'm re-purposing as fire support specialists/forward observers/joint fires observers. Again, they'll still be considered Artillery branch personnel, but at least their duty designation will fit in with a non-mechanized joint interdiction unit like GI Joe. I'm redesigning Steeler as GI Joe's Fire Direction Officer (he does have ties to Artillery according to his original filecard), an essential position in with a joint direct action/interdiction unit. The Air Force pilots are a bit of a problem. I just don't see how a team the size of GI Joe (in my mind, a 300-strong unit) can be accorded a full-time fixed wing complement. I can see one of the fighter pilots (maybe Slip-Stream?) being attached to the Joe team as an Air Liaison Officer (basically the Fire Direction Officer's counterpart in charge of coordinating with external Air Force assets), but what to do with the others? Ace can be one of the staff officers... he can be the unit S-2 (his secondary specialty is intelligence according to his filecard), but what of Ghostrider and Payload? |
04-17-2009, 01:47 AM | #4813 |
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Yeah, Taurus and Red Dog are on the list of characters that I don't feel like incorporating in the updated reference bible I'm working on.
The list of characters I'm willfully ignoring is basically this: - Battleforce 2000 - Any character introduced after 1988 (nothing against them, I just find it too much trouble to incorporate that many "named" characters... re-writing/factually updating the files alone would be way too much work, not to mention having to do the digital art) - Cobra-La (including Serpentor) - cross-promotional "celebrity" Joes (The Fridge, Sgt. Slaughter) - Taurus and Red Dog - Big Lob - The Iron Grenadiers (Destro, in my mind, has always worked better as a character in the role of the rational counterpart to the impulsive Cobra Commander within the Cobra organization, instead of the leader of his own paramilitary group... it takes him away from his interactions with the rest of the Cobra leadership, where the contrast makes him that much more interesting to me. By himself, he just comes off as bland) Additionally, I'm redesigning most of the armor crewman guys (i.e., Heavy Metal, Frostbite, etc.) as Cavalry Scouts, thus making it more plausible for them to be assigned to a light infantry/spec-ops/recon unit like how I imagine GI Joe to be while still technically falling under the armor branch. The artillery guys (i.e., Thunder, Grand Slam), I'm re-purposing as fire support specialists/forward observers/joint fires observers. Again, they'll still be considered Artillery branch personnel, but at least their duty designation will fit in with a non-mechanized joint interdiction unit like GI Joe. I'm redesigning Steeler as GI Joe's Fire Direction Officer (he does have ties to Artillery according to his original filecard), an essential position in with a joint direct action/interdiction unit. The Air Force pilots are a bit of a problem. I just don't see how a team the size of GI Joe (in my mind, a 300-strong unit) can be accorded a full-time fixed wing complement. I can see one of the fighter pilots (maybe Slip-Stream?) being attached to the Joe team as an Air Liaison Officer (basically the Fire Direction Officer's counterpart in charge of coordinating with external Air Force assets), but what to do with the others? Ace can be one of the staff officers... he can be the unit S-2 (his secondary specialty is intelligence according to his filecard), but what of Ghostrider and Payload? Yeah Air Force guys are hard as fighter pilots. Maybe as night Stalkers crewmen and then make them all part of it's crew but even then, the Joes just wouldn't get a dedicated air Support unit. How do you use the Laser guys? Spotters? Snipers? I think when you look at post 88 there are only so many guys worth using so you're not missing much. You could start at 87. Still guys you may miss as you finish your teams, (based on what you've shown us) Recoil Pathfinder Ambush (especially as a Spotter) Crosshairs Wreckage Dart Mace if you needed more HUMINT guys Freefall and all SkyPatrol to go with Ripcord Last edited by Loose Cannon; 04-17-2009 at 01:49 AM.. |
04-17-2009, 02:01 AM | #4814 |
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I'm planning on making Sci-Fi a spotter/back-up marksman paired with Low-Light (for nostalgic reasons as much as practical reasons... my older brother and I used to play-act those two as "buddy movie" styled partners when we were kids). As for Flash, I'm thinking of making him the team's fire control systems repairer... part of that MOS' responsibilities is the maintenance of all laser designation and targeting devices which, I think, is a plausible real-world analog to the whole "laser trooper" thing (in the Marines, they even have people who are specifically trained to work almost exclusively on laser designation systems... IIRC, the MOS is called "Electro-optical Systems repairer" or something like that) .
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04-17-2009, 08:47 AM | #4815 |
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Out of the later Joes I'd just do Dart, Crosshairs and Wreckage.
I also like how you're redoing the armor guys. That works out really well for them. I like the usage of the laser troopers. Would it be too much of a stretch to make them the guys that go around and "splash" targets with lasers for the airstrikes? The armor/artillery/air and even the jeeps, making them work with the Joe team has always been an issue. That's why I made a seperate Alpha team for that kind of stuff. In a way, it's almost like pushing 'em aside and saying "they don't exist unless I need 'em" and concentrating on the direct action guys. Even bringing a VAMP onto a mission.. you have to worry about how it gets there, how you get it into the mission zone, how it's armed/supplied (one gas tank for the entire mission??), how you get it out of the mission zone, etc.. That's alot of extra personal, extra transportation, etc.. Without vehicles, just take a Tomahawk in and the Joes rappel out. I can see the Joes having guys like Crankcase and Clutch on the team. Those guys are Rangers with the additional combat driving training. Those guys can rappel in with the rest of the team and drive anything they come across for the missions. Now just imagine having to take a tank into a mission. There aren't very many "assault on cobra island" and "rescue Dr. Burkhart" (from issue #1, and if I remember right, the Joes abandoned/destroyed the equipment on the island) type missions, but there's enough that the Joes have their own specialized armor/artillery units. But still comes back to the crew problems that exists. And then how many have the different tanks do you have? Say a MOBAT needs a crew of 2 (driver/gunner). How many crews do you have?
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04-17-2009, 09:17 AM | #4816 |
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I'm planning on making Sci-Fi a spotter/back-up marksman paired with Low-Light (for nostalgic reasons as much as practical reasons... my older brother and I used to play-act those two as "buddy movie" styled partners when we were kids). As for Flash, I'm thinking of making him the team's fire control systems repairer... part of that MOS' responsibilities is the maintenance of all laser designation and targeting devices which, I think, is a plausible real-world analog to the whole "laser trooper" thing (in the Marines, they even have people who are specifically trained to work almost exclusively on laser designation systems... IIRC, the MOS is called "Electro-optical Systems repairer" or something like that) .
Sounds like this guy: YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Sonic Fighter Dodger Dodger should have been a marine. Or if they used him instead of Clutch as a Mega-Marine then there would have been less doubt if the other's were Marines. I'm a fan of Dodger. He's the only BF2000 guy to live. Why was that? He made a decent appearance in the DDP run which was one of my favorite in that series, just for the sheer fact they had so many randoms in those few issues he was in. It was Claymore, Big Ben, Dodger, Stalker, against Overkill, (Who happened to be the same Saw-Viper that killed all the Joes in the Battle of BenZheen). I can see the laser guys having a place but their roles can vary. Spotter, Sniper, Infantry? All 3? Someone suggested using them as Drone operators, which would seem like a good fit. Still The Joes really need Air Combat Controllers rather than Lasertag. Flash? Sci-Fi? Red-Spot? Dodger? Grand-Slam? |
04-17-2009, 12:37 PM | #4817 |
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There aren't very many enlisted Air Force Joes.... ideally, they'd be the ones who can serve as the team's TACP (Tactical Air Control Party). I've toyed with the idea of switching some Joes from the Army to the Air Force to fill that gap (I know I'm already changing Lifeline from an Army 68W to an Air Force pararescueman)... guys like Starduster who, to me, is a likely candidate for re-imagining either as a Combat Controller or a Tactical Air Command & Control Specialist. The other option is to "demote" some of the existing Joe pilots into enlisted men and use them to fill out the pararescue and TACP ranks. But I want to resist changing the Joes too much (otherwise, what's the point of calling it "GI Joe"? Might as well just come up with my own military-based property). |
04-17-2009, 12:43 PM | #4818 |
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Starduster's a ranger but was always shown as a "jet-pack" guy. How do incorporate jet-packs into the Joeverse...
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04-17-2009, 12:56 PM | #4819 |
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I've been meaning to paint one of my extra stalkers with the Red Beret and call him Jammer from the action Force line. Voila Air Combat Controller.
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04-17-2009, 12:57 PM | #4820 |
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I'd say convert Starduster. He really has no real background. A few mini comics and that's it.
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