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03-15-2009, 06:07 PM | #3871 |
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No, was never in the comics or the cartoon. He's a new toy creation.
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03-15-2009, 06:18 PM | #3872 |
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Here's a question..
What is the point of Law? What does the Joe team need an MP for? I could see if he was a Army CID guy, but he's an MP. His first card says he's airborne qualified. He's listed as the Joe's head of security. I can't see the Joes having the same issues that a normal base has, so having an MP is kind of odd. So how do you guys use Law?
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03-15-2009, 06:37 PM | #3873 |
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Here's a question..
What is the point of Law? What does the Joe team need an MP for? I could see if he was a Army CID guy, but he's an MP. His first card says he's airborne qualified. He's listed as the Joe's head of security. I can't see the Joes having the same issues that a normal base has, so having an MP is kind of odd. An elite joint forces unit like the Joes would probably have an attached SRT so they don't use up their direct action assets (Rangers, SEALs, Special Forces, etc.) on more "mundane" but nonetheless essential activities like criminal antiterrorism duties, hostage rescue, protective services, airfield security, etc.. Last edited by zuludelta; 03-15-2009 at 06:45 PM.. |
03-15-2009, 07:53 PM | #3874 |
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Oliverbox I went ahead to borders and picked up Kill Bin Laden. I'm half done. It's a great story and it helps add another level to my Joe verse of what these guys are capable of. As well as let you in on the Unit's interaction with other Special Operators and a pretty good sense of how missions are run from the top down. The CIA plays a big part of of Delta.
As far as I can tell Delta Force operates with the same type of command structure of any other military unit with three slight differences. NCOs have a lot of say in all matters. They don't outrank the officers by any means, but this leads to the second major difference. All these guys are seasoned military guys. There may be some Staff Sergeants, but mostly SFC and up. I don't think there are any LT in Delta. So where a normal Green Beret team is a LT and a WO with a Master Sgt... Delta is a Major two or three Sgt Majors!!! and a bunch of SFCs and Master Sgt. Which gives you the last major difference, and that is everyone of them is a complete bad-ass, even the weakest link. Weapons experts everyone, training in all types of realms. And then more training. These guys are well into their 30's, much like I imagined most of the Joes. Just ranks didn't always reflect that correctly. I need to read a few other books, but there is very little written on Delta from anyone who actually knows what they are talking about. I think I need to look at the SAD guys, as many are actually former Delta operators and Green Berets. This may give us a closer idea of how the Joes are structured. |
03-15-2009, 08:01 PM | #3875 |
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Here's a question..
What is the point of Law? What does the Joe team need an MP for? I could see if he was a Army CID guy, but he's an MP. His first card says he's airborne qualified. He's listed as the Joe's head of security. I can't see the Joes having the same issues that a normal base has, so having an MP is kind of odd. So how do you guys use Law? I always had him standing at the checkpoint with Mutt, but a lot of MP as actually Airborne qualified since they are required to be deployed to the frontlines of any major city to serve as security right away. Plus at critical times like the beginning of an engagement they would be responsible for transport and protection of any key individuals. High level prisoners, high level judges, high level ambassadors, etc., Unfortunately the few times the Joes transported prisoners, Shockwave is usually there, wasting away, Grand-Slam since he doesn't have anything else to do is there too, and it usually ends badly. |
03-15-2009, 08:06 PM | #3876 |
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I was reading a story to my kids about Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe) and it dawned on me what other Joe appropriately shares that last name?
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03-15-2009, 08:24 PM | #3877 |
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Outrack, Stuart Selkirk
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03-15-2009, 08:29 PM | #3878 |
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Law's just an MP. Poor Law. I think I'd attach him to the Joe Base Security Team, and he'd head it up. These are the guys that get brought in once the Joes have secured a location, or set up a base for an ongoing mission. The Steel Brigade guys (Rook, Redzone and Checkpoint) are also part of that group. It's also where I think I'd put the flamethrowers.
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03-15-2009, 09:11 PM | #3879 |
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Mutt graduated Jungle Warfare Training School and was attached as cadre to Special Ops school.
Law's just an MP. Poor Law. I think I'd attach him to the Joe Base Security Team, and he'd head it up. These are the guys that get brought in once the Joes have secured a location, or set up a base for an ongoing mission. The Steel Brigade guys (Rook, Redzone and Checkpoint) are also part of that group. It's also where I think I'd put the flamethrowers. At least that is how I would treat it.
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03-15-2009, 09:14 PM | #3880 |
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I have a question for those that have been reading these books on Delta Force: Do they make you think Joe is more like Delta or less like Delta than you previously thought, structure-wise I mean, not toughness :P.
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