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03-03-2009, 11:16 AM | #3201 |
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I definately hear where your coming from. Wolverine just happens to be my all time favorite comic character and I've been going through my head the last few years of who could take him in a fight from all the different comic companies characters. Cap(second fav of all time) would make an awesome Joe. While he is not superhuman per se the super soldier serum did make him physically as perfect as a "normal human" can be. Add on all the years of fighting super humans and all his training and experience and he would probably help dismantle Cobra in a very short time. I also would say Nick Fury would make a great Joe.
Now onto Tanksmashers snipers. Is there a reason Widescope isn't mentioned in the list? Is it he came out between collecting periods for you guys? Or because he is a SWAT sniper? I personally can't wait to get 2 Shockwave comic packs so I can have Shockwave and do a custom Widescope and put him with Lamont. Widescope is not a sniper, http://www.yojoe.com/action/03/widescope.shtml but according to File cards, half the Sonic Fighters are qualified Sharpshooters. So how do they figure in? Dial-Tone Dodger Rock'n'Roll and Psyche-Out is listed as Marksman I know these are some pretty hokey choices since they have other specialties they were designed for that have nothing to do with being a sharpshooter, but in a pinch I suppose you could use them. Last edited by Loose Cannon; 03-03-2009 at 11:25 AM.. |
03-03-2009, 11:33 AM | #3202 |
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So who are all our SWAT/FBI/Ubran Assault Specialists?
Sure Fire Bullet Proof Low-Light Widescope Shockwave Mutt (DEF) ... Should we include LAW since he's an MP or keep him separate? |
03-03-2009, 01:03 PM | #3203 |
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Sure Fire is an MP also, and do you count him as two different people since the versions are so different or the same guy with a different uniform?
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03-03-2009, 01:09 PM | #3204 |
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On women in the military:
I think the biggest issue, besides the capture/torture, is that a male's natural reaction is to protect the female. My girlfriend is a better driver than I am, but my natural reaction when it's bad weather is to drive or tell her to be careful. That's just the way I'm wired. In a battlefield condition, I think the fear was that the men would go out of their way (at the expense of the mission, etc..) to protect the women in combat. Look at the reaction when Jessica Lynch was captured. Now imagine that hundredfold for women being killed/captured in combat situations. I don't think it's a physical thing, as much as it's a psychological thing.
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03-03-2009, 01:15 PM | #3205 |
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The DEF Law is very Urban looking. Mace? Long Arm, Bullhorn, Steel Brigade? Mercer always seemed to fit to me. Barricade and what about Beachhead V4? I actually liked the figure. I 'm not sure if he should be a different character altogether. The sigma 6 line had a SWAT guy named Lockdown who could be used as either this figure or V2 Shockwave. |
03-03-2009, 01:54 PM | #3206 |
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On the Joes vs. Marvel Heroes/Villians:
I don't think you can make a straight comparasion. It's not apples to apples (different flavors). It's apples to oranges. You have to be able to step back and take favoritism out and be objective. Awhile back when DC and Marvel did the "versus" crossover. They did alot of "dream" matchups but weren't real about it. Superman vs. Juggernaut. What's the only way to stop the Juggernaut? Knocking off his skullcap and using mental powers on him. THe Juggernaut would wreck up the DC Universe, there aren't any telepaths (that I can think of) that would be able to take him out. How would Superman? Would have to somehow fly him off planet. But in the crossover, a couple punches and Juggernaut was out. Just not right. Wolverine and Snake-Eyes would be a laughable fight. SE would last a couple of minutes and then he'd be done. What advantage does SE have over Wolverine? Both have ninja and commando training. Both are agile. Wolvie has heightened senses, claws and a healing factor. Now Daredevil would be a better fight for SE. Would be closer, but DD would still end up winning. I see the guys in the Marvel Universe, even the non-powered as being at least SE-level by virtue of their being in the Marvel Universe (some would be below, but minor feel, SE could mop the floor with the Young Avengers, most of 'em). Now if Ronin (the original Hawkeye) was in the Joe universe, he'd be equivalent to Low-Light. But because he's part of the Marvel Universe and has received training/skills that the Joe team just wouldnt' possess, he'd be "upped" in abilities versus the Joes. Batman would wipe the floor with SE because he's used to dealing with ninjas and guys 5x SE's power level.
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03-03-2009, 02:01 PM | #3207 |
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Oh yeah, I'm on Facebook as well. Don't check it to often, but I'm there.
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03-03-2009, 02:08 PM | #3208 |
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I tend to make the characters with different uniforms, as long as the head is pretty different or different enough if that makes sense, into new characters since as we've discovered there are some pretty big holes in the Joe roster that need filling.
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03-03-2009, 02:16 PM | #3209 |
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On the Joes vs. Marvel Heroes/Villians:
I don't think you can make a straight comparasion. It's not apples to apples (different flavors). It's apples to oranges. You have to be able to step back and take favoritism out and be objective. Awhile back when DC and Marvel did the "versus" crossover. They did alot of "dream" matchups but weren't real about it. Superman vs. Juggernaut. What's the only way to stop the Juggernaut? Knocking off his skullcap and using mental powers on him. THe Juggernaut would wreck up the DC Universe, there aren't any telepaths (that I can think of) that would be able to take him out. How would Superman? Would have to somehow fly him off planet. But in the crossover, a couple punches and Juggernaut was out. Just not right. Wolverine and Snake-Eyes would be a laughable fight. SE would last a couple of minutes and then he'd be done. What advantage does SE have over Wolverine? Both have ninja and commando training. Both are agile. Wolvie has heightened senses, claws and a healing factor. Now Daredevil would be a better fight for SE. Would be closer, but DD would still end up winning. I see the guys in the Marvel Universe, even the non-powered as being at least SE-level by virtue of their being in the Marvel Universe (some would be below, but minor feel, SE could mop the floor with the Young Avengers, most of 'em). Now if Ronin (the original Hawkeye) was in the Joe universe, he'd be equivalent to Low-Light. But because he's part of the Marvel Universe and has received training/skills that the Joe team just wouldnt' possess, he'd be "upped" in abilities versus the Joes. Batman would wipe the floor with SE because he's used to dealing with ninjas and guys 5x SE's power level. I guess you're right about Batman as well. He's kicked guys asses 5x as strong as SE. Daredevil too? I'm not sure I buy that one. Wolverine should have no problem with SE though. It really isn't apples to apples you're right. I'm not sure How Strong Captain America is though. Could Batman beat him up? Probably just for the fact he has a Billion dollars and Steve Rogers once went Mall cop as his alter ego. I could see the Joes armed with special Weapons able to take on some of the Super heros. Like I think Spiderman could be had. Gambit please... Firewall could take him out. I think any of these guys with alter egos could be found and captured pretty easily. The Mutants/Superheros that fight in Teams, is another story. Short of dropping a BunkerBuster on their heads you can't just shoot any of them. Half of them are bulletproof. |
03-03-2009, 02:22 PM | #3210 |
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Wait is the Juggernaut stronger than the Hulk? I guess so. But still Superman should be stronger than both these guys shouldn't he? His powers of Speed and flight should make him unstoppable to the Hulk or Juggernaut.
I guess you're right about Batman as well. He's kicked guys asses 5x as strong as SE. Daredevil too? I'm not sure I buy that one. Wolverine should have no problem with SE though. It really isn't apples to apples you're right. I'm not sure How Strong Captain America is though. Could Batman beat him up? Probably just for the fact he has a Billion dollars and Steve Rogers once went Mall cop as his alter ego. I could see the Joes armed with special Weapons able to take on some of the Super heros. Like I think Spiderman could be had. Gambit please... Firewall could take him out. I think any of these guys with alter egos could be found and captured pretty easily. The Mutants/Superheros that fight in Teams, is another story. Short of dropping a BunkerBuster on their heads you can't just shoot any of them. Half of them are bulletproof.
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