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03-01-2009, 06:06 AM | #3091 |
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As for snipers, I think Low-Light should have at least have a spotter, but even better would be a three-man sniper section much like infantry companies have.
Typical Sniper Team: Sniper (E5) with XM107 Observer/Sniper (E4) with M24 Security/Sniper (E3) with M203 So we could use Low-Light (or Side Track if you really want to use him for special night ops), Cross Hair, and Ambush. It also been mentioned, though I can't recall where, that Low-Light, specifically, doesn't need a spotter. The more people on a Sniper Team, the more difficult it is to stay hidden. Marine Scout Sniper teams only use 2 - so do Ranger/Special Forces Sniper Teams. Barrel Roll is unique in that he also seems to be a sniper who operates independently. He may not need a spotter either... but I still don't think he's as good as Low-Light. The others: Cross Hair and Hollow Point would use spotters... Ambush and Side Track would be great choices. With Sniper Teams, the fewer members the better... stealth is key.
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03-01-2009, 06:15 AM | #3092 |
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What do you guys think of that Accerlator Suit Ripcord figure?
I like the figure ALOT. It looks like Wraith. How and are you going to integrate it into the Joeverse? It's not Ripcord, so would need a new name. Joe team made their own wraith-tech suits to combat Wraith? The Joes unit assigned to deal with the nano-enhanced Red Shadows (from DDP)?
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03-01-2009, 06:20 AM | #3093 |
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Quick filecard question. Why do some cards list Flint as an E-6 and others as a WO-2?
I'm assuming he should be a WO-2.. but..?
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03-01-2009, 12:09 PM | #3094 |
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I think we all have our own notions about the hierarchy of snipers on the Joe Team. In my mind, Low-Light stands head and shoulders above the others. Maybe its that he was the first, or that he's the "night spotter". But the other snipers have always been "not quite Low-Light" in my book.
It also been mentioned, though I can't recall where, that Low-Light, specifically, doesn't need a spotter. The more people on a Sniper Team, the more difficult it is to stay hidden. Marine Scout Sniper teams only use 2 - so do Ranger/Special Forces Sniper Teams. Barrel Roll is unique in that he also seems to be a sniper who operates independently. He may not need a spotter either... but I still don't think he's as good as Low-Light. The others: Cross Hair and Hollow Point would use spotters... Ambush and Side Track would be great choices. With Sniper Teams, the fewer members the better... stealth is key. Ollie typed it out before i could. |
03-01-2009, 01:53 PM | #3095 |
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I think we all have our own notions about the hierarchy of snipers on the Joe Team. In my mind, Low-Light stands head and shoulders above the others. Maybe its that he was the first, or that he's the "night spotter". But the other snipers have always been "not quite Low-Light" in my book.
It also been mentioned, though I can't recall where, that Low-Light, specifically, doesn't need a spotter. The more people on a Sniper Team, the more difficult it is to stay hidden. Marine Scout Sniper teams only use 2 - so do Ranger/Special Forces Sniper Teams. Barrel Roll is unique in that he also seems to be a sniper who operates independently. He may not need a spotter either... but I still don't think he's as good as Low-Light. The others: Cross Hair and Hollow Point would use spotters... Ambush and Side Track would be great choices. With Sniper Teams, the fewer members the better... stealth is key. Last edited by Tanksmasher; 03-01-2009 at 01:58 PM.. |
03-01-2009, 02:59 PM | #3096 |
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It is written that Low-Light doesn't need a sniper, but realistically he should have a partner. That greatly increases his security, and it also provides a training environment for a younger student sniper. It's hard to learn anything new when you're by yourself. Also, a spotter makes finding and hitting targets more efficient. He can quickly call out a target's location and movement and any adjustments that need to be made to a shot. But I like the idea of having a Joe sniper team similar to infantry or mech companies, where they have three guys working together. The third guy or flanker is mainly security though, and this works really well in urban environments.
anyhow, i always thought snipers worked in pairs. this 3 man concept is new to me & i was just agreeing with oliver that smaller is better |
03-01-2009, 03:14 PM | #3097 |
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there was a tanker that did a series where lowlight and shooter's son were partnered up on a mission that went bad and beachhead and some greenshhirts went in to extract them. i thought it was a good read but i can't remember the guy's name.
anyhow, i always thought snipers worked in pairs. this 3 man concept is new to me & i was just agreeing with oliver that smaller is better Light Infantry typically employ two-man teams, but the three-man team concept originates within the Stryker Brigade Combat team, I believe. Check out the following link: FM 3-21.21, Appendix C, Sniper Employment |
03-01-2009, 03:39 PM | #3098 |
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Also, since there are so many Joe snipers--Low-Light, Cross Hair, Barrel Roll, Bull Horn, Side Track, Ambush, Hollow Point, Spirit (possibly)--putting them into teams may be beneficial. Low-Light would definitely lead them. Also, I like to employ Snow Job, who is a rifle instructor, as a sniper in cold, mountainous terrain. Perhaps Windchill could be his spotter since he was also involved in Biathalons. He may be a driver, but he was a hunter/shooter first. ;O
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03-01-2009, 07:54 PM | #3099 |
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It's a trade off - security vs. stealth. If you've got a unit to back you up close by (like a stryker brigade), then you might be able to forgo some stealth because if they see you, you can always call in more help. Because, let's face it, if you're far from support - three soldiers isn't that much different than 2. Stealth is a key element for a Special Operations Force that moves as an Airborne Light Infantry Small Unit Force. So how about this - the size of the Sniper teams should be METT-T (Mission Enemy Time Terrain Troops) dependent. If the Joes are in a Urban environment with support relatively close at hand, a three person team may be best. If there's a long range mission where stealth is critical, Low-Light may be sent by himself. It would seem important that the Joes would be able to meet the possible parameters/mission requirements of any sniper mission.
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03-01-2009, 09:40 PM | #3100 |
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By their nature I think the Joe team has to operate differently from the normal branches of the military, so they've adapted the normal teams into Joe teams.
I like the idea of 2-man sniper teams.
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