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02-27-2009, 02:06 PM | #3071 |
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Yeah Pretty much a MEU. I think it really depends on how many vehicles the Joes have, this would determine the size of the unit over all. At the heart of the Joes is the Direct Action Company. There are only 220 or so named Joes so minus a few Pilots, this is a Company, plus a HQ detachment. A highly trained Company of the best there is.
A Ranger Rifle Company consists of about 152 Rangers, and it is made up of three rifle platoons, a weapons platoon and a HQ. So we could add an armor/mech platoon that consists of a tank section of two tanks (MOBAT & Mauler) and an APC/IFV secton of two vehicles (Warthog, APC). And we can add a mortar section, artillery platoon, engineer section (Bridge layer, etc), ADA platoon, and others. |
02-27-2009, 02:11 PM | #3072 |
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Are you talking about 4 separate companies around the world? I imagine if they are deployed in Urban areas they would have to be real small units 20 men tops and they would probably roll around in Suburbans and not tanks, maybe a SWAT truck. More like a CIA station. Typically the office is 4-20 men and that's it. They mix in with the locals and no Green Shirts. I'm not sure where the CIA deploys their Special Activities Division, yet even they are part of the overall Joint Special Operations Command. So like previous conversations, without Armor or Air they would work like they did in Devil's Due. But once you add those equipment components the force has to get much larger. |
02-27-2009, 02:21 PM | #3073 |
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I just don't see the Joes following any established military structure for organization. I can see the basics being applied, but on smaller scales. The Joes are a unit that has to integrate all the different branches and military specialities, well also being able to operate independantly in a small scale and large scale missions.
So Steeler may be in charge of the armor element at the Asian base and Heavy Metal in charge at the European base; but when the two elements come together for larger conflicts, Steeler is the overall in charge. This makes the HQ element of the Joe team pretty vital, as they keep tabs on all the various personal, units and equipment. Steeler, needing to know his people and equipment, must also know all the people and equipment that make up all the various Joe armor elements.
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02-27-2009, 02:31 PM | #3074 |
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Are you talking about 4 separate companies around the world? I imagine if they are deployed in Urban areas they would have to be real small units 20 men tops and they would probably roll around in Suburbans and not tanks, maybe a SWAT truck.
More like a CIA station. Typically the office is 4-20 men and that's it. They mix in with the locals and no Green Shirts. I'm not sure where the CIA deploys their Special Activities Division, yet even they are part of the overall Joint Special Operations Command. So like previous conversations, without Armor or Air they would work like they did in Devil's Due. But once you add those equipment components the force has to get much larger. Each base has HQ, armor, infantry, air elements assigned to that base, so that they can undertake any mission that they need to. There would also be the various Recon/Special Ops units that are assigned to that base but are more mobile and open in where they can be deployed. Only assigned to a base to make deployment quicker (don't want to have to send a team from North America to Asia all the time, much easier to have one stationed in Asia). Overall the Joes operate like a company (with attached air element), but are split into 4 groups around the world. That's one thing the comic kind of played with, time. It takes awhile to get forces moved around (days, not hours). So it makes sense for the Joe team to have various elements located around the world instead of always leaving from one place (kind of like why the military has bases around the world, for easier deployment). The cartoon was even worse with time.
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02-27-2009, 03:44 PM | #3075 |
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So the question is do we design a "paper" company that requires many greenshirts and support personnel or do we design a "toy" company that consists of only existing action figures and vehicles? In other words, a "paper" company can have as many greenshirts and tanks and aircraft as you like, and if that's the case, you could have a brigade or even a division. Or do we simply utilize existing figures, perhaps even turning multiple versions of one figure (e.g. Duke v8) into new characters to expand the roster?
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02-27-2009, 03:52 PM | #3076 |
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Intersting, I think it's funny what's left out of Flint's file card. For as much is made out of his Rhodes scholarship, the Rhodes scholarship is about doing graduate work in England at Oxford University. What's not explained is where Flint earned his undergraduate degree. He obviously didn't go to West Point, or he'd be a commisioned Officer - an LT or above. Rhodes Scholarships are hard to come by, but you don't have to go to an Ivy League School. The University of Mississippi has produced 24 Rhodes Scholars, for example. The University of Tennessee has produced 6.
This wouldn't be so abnormal, but they do mention where other Joes have gone to school if their educations were noteworthy: Lady jaye at Brwn Myer, Claymore at Dartmouth, etc. To make so much of Flint's schooling, and then not to mention his alma mater seems odd to me. Somehow, I've always liked to think of him as a Duke man. It's close to Special Forces HQ at Ft. Bragg, it's on par with a lot of Ivy League Schools. I'm sure some tar heels will disagree, but I've got no hatred for UNC. It just seems to fit Flint's personality and Duke does produce a fair number of Rhode Scholars and has a broad appeal nationally. Flint is from Wichita, Kansas. As far as I'm concerned, he went to either the University of Kansas or Kansas State University which is less than 30 miles from Ft. Reily, which used to be home to the Big Red 1. I doubt he stayed home to go to Wichita State University.
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02-27-2009, 03:55 PM | #3077 |
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So the question is do we design a "paper" company that requires many greenshirts and support personnel or do we design a "toy" company that consists of only existing action figures and vehicles? In other words, a "paper" company can have as many greenshirts and tanks and aircraft as you like, and if that's the case, you could have a brigade or even a division. Or do we simply utilize existing figures, perhaps even turning multiple versions of one figure (e.g. Duke v8) into new characters to expand the roster?
Both. Have the "paper" company to fill out the missing Joes (that you don't own/have) and the Greenshirt positions. And utilize the multiple versions (that look far enough apart) as new Joes to expand the roster. There's definately not enough "named" Joes to fill out the roster spots of my 4 bases. If each base needs an armor driver/commander, there's only Steeler and Heavy Metal to choose from. So that's 2 more spots need to fill. There's only 2 Joe EOD guys (Lightfoot and Tripwire, Tunnel Rat fills another function), so would need more. Lots of room for custom characters.
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02-27-2009, 04:04 PM | #3078 |
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So the question is do we design a "paper" company that requires many greenshirts and support personnel or do we design a "toy" company that consists of only existing action figures and vehicles? In other words, a "paper" company can have as many greenshirts and tanks and aircraft as you like, and if that's the case, you could have a brigade or even a division. Or do we simply utilize existing figures, perhaps even turning multiple versions of one figure (e.g. Duke v8) into new characters to expand the roster?
How they deploy any Armor vehicles more than two or three at a time would be only in limited action. Artillery even less. So Barrage and Steeler sit at the Motor Pool unless it's time to go to war. THis works in the little theaters like a Sierra Gordo. But like THe current Iraq wars. The Tanks battles were over after a few weeks. |
02-27-2009, 04:07 PM | #3079 |
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Yeah, the Joe armor/artillery elements have ALOT of downtime.
So, for me, the tank drivers and crews would operate Armadillos most of the time. And Major Barrage would be on the frontlines with guys like Backblast, with portable man-held anti-aircraft/armor systems.
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02-27-2009, 04:08 PM | #3080 |
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If I was to recreate the Joe team, there would be no armor/artillery vehicles/weapons. Backblast and that kind of guy would still exist, cause that's man-held weaponry. The smaller/faster vehicles would exist but no tanks or anything like that. No jet fighters either. Helicopters and Skyhawks.
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