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02-04-2009, 11:14 PM | #2451 |
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Hey Guys, so I won a Magnum P.I. custom figure the other day and I'm really excited about it. I'm certainly going to use him in my Joeverse (Magnum is my favorite show - of all time). I guess I'm trying to figure out how he fits into my Joeverse.
Magnum was Navy Commander and a Navy SEAL, who finished his career in Naval Intelligence. I was thinking of putting him on the U.S.S. Flagg as the Officer in charge of all Naval Special Operations. Although I'm sure he'll have to do some intelligence/investigative work from time to time... What do you guys think?
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02-04-2009, 11:17 PM | #2452 |
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Yeah, you got it.
What always bothered me about Rey, in the comics... Where did he come from? Here's a guy with the rank of General, middle-aged (same age as Serpentor). So no one thought to investigate why this guy didn't have a childhood or how he rose up to become General? Rey was a super-aged clone, same as Serpentor. There were a bunch of normal-aging clones, the kids, a mid-aged clone, Hannibal and then Serpentor and Rey already at adulthood. So no one decided to look into his past? I always found that odd.
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02-04-2009, 11:25 PM | #2453 |
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Yeah, I agree. Having a good Serpentor was a good idea, just not carried out very well (hallmark of DDP's run). Mindbender had hooked himself up to the Brainwave Scanner to impart his loyalties to Serpentor, so how did Rey escape that?
That's a good use for Magnum. Or maybe use him as a N.C.I.S. officer?
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02-04-2009, 11:33 PM | #2454 |
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Yeah, I agree. Having a good Serpentor was a good idea, just not carried out very well (hallmark of DDP's run). Mindbender had hooked himself up to the Brainwave Scanner to impart his loyalties to Serpentor, so how did Rey escape that?
That's a good use for Magnum. Or maybe use him as a N.C.I.S. officer? Magnum could do a lot. I remember one of my favorite episodes has him using a sniper rifle. He also seemed quite comfortable with demolitions. I may use him as sort of the Navy's version of Claymore. They are both officers; they both have a lot of Commando training and experience in Vietnam and they both have mustaches.
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02-04-2009, 11:40 PM | #2455 |
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The mustache is essential, lol...
That would work for Magnum. I'm trying to figure out what to make my armorer, Munitions, out of. I'm going to use the original Firefly backpack (the new one has tools that are too big for working on weapons, but the old backpack will work perfect). Now just need the rest of the figure. I've got the start of a firing range dio, with attached armory, so need to get the figure going. Had so many dios I wanted to do, then realized that I need to start small and think small for 'em. Just don't have the space for the ones I waned. A small firing range will work pretty good.
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02-04-2009, 11:50 PM | #2456 |
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The mustache is essential, lol...
That would work for Magnum. I'm trying to figure out what to make my armorer, Munitions, out of. I'm going to use the original Firefly backpack (the new one has tools that are too big for working on weapons, but the old backpack will work perfect). Now just need the rest of the figure. I've got the start of a firing range dio, with attached armory, so need to get the figure going. Had so many dios I wanted to do, then realized that I need to start small and think small for 'em. Just don't have the space for the ones I waned. A small firing range will work pretty good.
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02-05-2009, 12:32 AM | #2457 |
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Post the pics of the customs you guys won. Would like to see 'em.
So here's a question, who was the best General to lead the Joes? Flagg Hawk Colton Rey Obviously Hawk had the longest "tenure", but was he the best? I'd say Flagg would have been the best if he had lived. He was there from the beginning, formed the team, and dealt with the Jugglers the best (Hawk was too in-your-face, Flagg was more political and I think it got him his way most of the time). Colton lead the team during a tough time, with the AE-group all going all over the place, and during WW3. He did a decent job. Rey was just never given a fair chance to shine.
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02-05-2009, 12:39 AM | #2458 |
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Great idea. I'd love to get a copy of the MOS lists and anything else you might have. I am trying to create some file cards for new characters and even some old ones. Also, I like the Dutch file card. He's definitely Army. I remember you mentioning the Battle of Hue and wondering if his unit was a Marine unit, but I found some interesting background in an early script of the movie, previously titled The Hunter. In the earlier version, Dillon says they were the "best in the Army," and Hawkins tells Billy an irreverent joke about two Marines eating roadkill so he's probably Army as well. However, Billy is described as a Kit Carson scout, and that means he would be a Marine, but it's not clear whether he was an actual Kit Carson scout or if the writer is simply comparing him to one. But if he is a Marine then that would explain why he doesn’t laugh at Hawkins’ joke. As for Blain and Mac, they were in the 101st Airborne according to an emblem on Blain's flask. So they’re all Army except for maybe Billy, and they are clearly an elite unit. Dutch asks the general why they don’t “use the regular army” for the mission, so this affirms their elite status. But which elite unit do they belong to? Special Forces? Rangers? They might have been Green Berets, except for the fact that Dutch is surprised when he finds out that Hopper and his Green Berets were in the same area before them. He knows these men, which suggests that he may have been a Green Beret himself or that he trained with them. We know that Delta Force recruits a lot of Green Berets. Delta Force, I believe, also works out of Fort Bragg, where Hopper and his men are based. Delta Force seems to make the most sense. None of Dutch’s men wear insignia or identity badges and their uniforms are nondescript. They don’t follow strict grooming guidelines either. Billy has long hair, Blain sports a mustache and Dutch is unshaven when they arrive. Dutch’s high rank as a major makes him suitable as Company/Detachment Commander, assuming that Delta works a lot like the Green Berets. All the men are versatile and highly specialized too. Poncho could have been a Green Beret given his Spanish proficiency and later recruited to Delta. They also worked in various countries like Afghanistan and Berlin and were offered a mission in Libya, but Dutch refused because they are a rescue unit. Delta is well known for rescuing hostages and they are considered the best close-quarters combat team, much like Dutch’s men. I’d say they have to be Delta. Last edited by Tanksmasher; 02-05-2009 at 12:50 AM.. |
02-05-2009, 02:56 AM | #2459 |
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I didn't read alot of the DD stuff but I have a few questions and thoughts that may clear up General Rey's ability to be who he is. Rey was inserted by the jugglers along with the rest of the Pheonix guard, correct? This was around the same time as Cobra Commander was moonlighting as a presedential aide, right? My thinking would be that with all CC's clout in his new position and with some dealings with the jugglers he may have been able to create a file for Rey and insert it into whatever database is needed.
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02-05-2009, 08:51 AM | #2460 |
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Code Name: Grey Fox
File Name: Rey, Phillip Nathan Primary Military Specialty: Special Forces (18A) Secondary Military Specialty: Cavalry Scout Officer (19A) Rank: O-7 (Brigadier General) Place of Birth: Classified A great deal about General Rey's childhood and upbringing are unknown. What is known is that he was a ward of the United States Government for much of his life and reared in Northern Virgina, around the nation's capital. Rey distinguished himself as a high school scholar and athlete from a young age. His levels of strength, endurance, coordination, and mental aptitude were unprecedented. He earned more than 20 Varsity Letters in High School, graduated Valedictorian, earned his Eagle Scout award, and held no less than three black belts in different forms of martial arts. He also restored a classic '68 Camaro, which he drove to school everyday. Rey enlisted in the Marine Corps when he was 17. It seemed an odd choice for the kid who had dozens of full scholarships awaiting him, but Rey seemed driven by something else - the need to prove himself, and to learn to be the best. He was first in his class in Basic at Paris Island, and went on to become a Recon Marine Scout Sniper. He had his Airborne wings and Scuba bubble in no time at all. After three years in the Corps, Rey applied to West Point. It seemed an odd choice for a Marine to select the U.S. Military Academy, but it must have made sense to Rey. He showed up as a Cadet with a chest full of awards and qualifications, and not one bit of ego. He worked for every award he received. He graduated at the Top of his class and was a varsity letterman in Wrestling, Boxing, Judo, Swimming, Track, Weightlifting, Cross-Country Running, and he was an All-American middle line backer. He was also the Captain of his Cadet Company's Sandhurst team for three years consecutively. He was also one of the most popular Cadets in his class. He genuinely loved his classmates. When asked why he had wanted to play defense, Rey simply stated: "It's more about what we're training to do. We're soldiers who train to fight defensive campaigns against an aggressor." Incidentally, under Rey's leadership, the West Point defense lead the country in forced turn overs and defense points scored. It was as if Rey bleed Black and Gold. Most top cadets select Airborne Infantry, but Rey chose differently. Again, his wisdom proved sound - as if he were being guided by some very ancient knowledge well beyond his years. Rey selected Infantry, but after Ranger School, he was assigned to the 1st Cavalry Div. at Ft. Hood, Texas where he served as a Platoon leader in a Cavalry Scout unit. If Rey's career had been bright up to this point, it was nothing in comparison to what was next. Rey revolutionized Armored Cavalry. He was able to think and react faster than any other commander at Ft. Hood, which irritated every Armor Officer there - How could a young Infantry Officer be a better tank commander than they were? What is more, Rey was able to raise the morale of his troops like no one could dream. Good soldiers under Rey's command got even better, poor soldiers who were considered drains of resources suddenly showed themselves to be competent troops under Lt. Rey's leadership. As a Scout Platoon leader, Rey took what he learned as a Recon Marine and multiplied it. Rey's Cav Scouts became a terror to the enemy. His ability to use his unit as a direct action force, or a recon unit became the Army standard for recon units. Versitility and Speed of Action became his trade marks. Rey was promoted to Captain within 16 months of arriving at Ft. Hood, and given Command of a Troop of Cavalry Scouts. He flourished. He then wrote a new thesis on "The Doctrine of Cavalry as Used in Today's Warfare". It became required reading at the Army War College, and at West Point. After two more years, Capt. Rey was then selected for Long Range Surveillance Company Commander, 75th Ranger Regiment. If he had been good with mounted Infantry, he was amazing with light Infantry. His Battalion commander wrote of him, "He is the finest officer I've ever worked with - he should be my boss." While with the Rangers, Rey earned his Pathfinder, and HALO badges. After three years with the Rangers, Rey applied for the Qualification Course at the Special Warfare Training Center at Ft. Bragg. While Rey worked amazingly well in a structured military environment, he was like a miracle worker in Special Forces. There was no situation that Rey did excel in. In any field problem his unit had, Rey would almost instinctively know what to do. He didn't just command respect; his men wanted to follow him. He took it as a welcomed challenge to have his A-Team deployed to train indigenous forces. Rey took it as a point of pride to train and motivate them to be better soldiers than standard Army troops. On one occasion, an indigenous trooper was asked what the American flag meant to him. He enthusiastically responded, "Sir, to act honorably at all times and to kill the enemy for Captain Rey, sir!" If that's not winning hearts and minds... After 4 years with the Special Forces, Rey was promoted to Full Colonel and asked to serve as the Chief of Operations (G-3) for Army Special Operations Command. Most people thought he should have been running the entire Command. Rey was hand picked by the President and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and promoted to Brigadier General to be assigned as a battlefield General for the G.I. Joe Team's Special Operations Command. He's one of the youngest Generals in the U.S. Army since the Civil War - he's not even 35 - but his gray hair makes him look wise beyond his years, and very distinguished. He looks like a leader; he moves like a trained athlete, and he thinks like a war time genius. The most amazing thing may be his personal hobbies - General Rey reads the classics, writes poetry and short stories, draws pictures of far away times and places, and he smokes a very old, very large pipe, like he's a man apart from his own time. For any other man, such accomplishment and ability might lead to arrogance. General Rey is anything but arrogant. In fact, the troops love him. They call him the "Grey Fox" because he is more clever than anyone else on the battlefield, and he feels like a very old soul. |
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