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05-28-2018, 06:19 PM | #22771 |
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Yea, that’s what I was thinking. Originally I was going to give him a MASH (TV series) sized unit so around 84 personnel but got caught up in the more modern Combat Support Hospital.
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05-28-2018, 09:35 PM | #22772 |
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What you've described sounds a bit like one of the Long Range Patrol structures from Vietnam:
"A 230-man LRP company, such as existed in I and II Field Forces in the fall of 1967, was a surprisingly large organization. Commanded by a major, this company had four line platoons plus headquarters, operations, communications, mess, and maintenance sections. The officer component included the commander, operations, intelligence, and communications officers, and platoon leaders. Each line platoon had up to seven patrols with six men in each patrol. In addition, the II Field force LRP Company had attached to it a dedicated Huey helicopter-lift platoon for insertions and extractions, a gunship platoon for fire support, a full ground-cavalry troop to act as a quick reaction force (QRF), a forward air controller (FAC) to coordinate and deliver air strikes, and artillery liaison officers to coordinate artillery support.88 This was a battalion-size force of up to 500 personnel, all focused on a single LRP company and its training and combat operations." The Vietnam Experience LRRP 1966-1972 As for the hospital, I actually think it's a pretty good idea. A lot of operations happen in pretty remote areas. For example, after that incident in Niger recently, some people were saying it can take up to 10 hours to get medevac (US Military Reveals Contractors Flew to the Rescue in Niger, but Little Else - The Drive). Having some kind of transportable surgical facility seems like a pretty good idea to stabilize casualties before shipping them off to Bethesda or Walter Reed. 84 people might be a bit big, but something dedicated would be a valuable resource. |
05-29-2018, 06:07 AM | #22773 |
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Something came up in a different thread that has got me wondering about the Joes who are qualified expert in all NATO and Warsaw Pact small arms (or minor variations on that idea). Other than Green Beret weapons sergeants, would anyone else get the opportunity to handle that many weapons? Does that imply that Grunt, Snake Eyes, Stalker, Gung Ho, Torpedo, Quick Kick, Footloose, Beachhead, Falcon, Claymore and Roadblock were all SF Weapons Sergeant (or, in the case of Gung Ho and Torpedo, perhaps did the course as inter-service students - which I'm guessing must happen occasionally)?
And speaking of Roadblock since the comics have him as working with Duke in the past I think it would make more sense for him to be a Special Forces Weapons Sergeant. Since Duke spent most of his time in SF it seems like it would work best for storyline purposes. On another topic I have decided to make Airborne (v1) a former instructor at the Airborne School. With all of my Joes being Airborne qualified why would they single out one of them and call him "Airborne"? The instructors there are called "Sergeant Airborne" by the recruits so I thought it made sense for Talltree. Eventually they will leave out the "Sergeant" part and just call him "Airborne". My only dilemma is what rank a person has to achieve in order to be an instructor. In my Joe-verse he is an E-6. Last edited by john shaft; 05-29-2018 at 06:09 AM.. |
05-29-2018, 07:03 AM | #22774 |
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On another topic I have decided to make Airborne (v1) a former instructor at the Airborne School. With all of my Joes being Airborne qualified why would they single out one of them and call him "Airborne"? The instructors there are called "Sergeant Airborne" by the recruits so I thought it made sense for Talltree. Eventually they will leave out the "Sergeant" part and just call him "Airborne". My only dilemma is what rank a person has to achieve in order to be an instructor. In my Joe-verse he is an E-6.
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05-29-2018, 09:42 AM | #22775 |
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Going back to this it also states that Rock'n'Roll is qualified with all NATO and Warsaw Pact light and heavy machine guns and that Snow Job is qualified with all NATO sniper rifles. I have always pondered whether to make these two plus Grunt, Quick Kick, Footloose and Roadblock former Special Forces or not (I have already made Snake-Eyes and Stalker but not Beach Head). The problem with Grunt it mainly his code name. Why would a former SF soldier be called a "grunt"?
And speaking of Roadblock since the comics have him as working with Duke in the past I think it would make more sense for him to be a Special Forces Weapons Sergeant. Since Duke spent most of his time in SF it seems like it would work best for storyline purposes. As for Grunt, he could just be a really hard-core dedicated infantry guy, hence the name. |
05-29-2018, 09:51 AM | #22776 |
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I have him as an E-7 since he's been around so long.
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05-29-2018, 10:40 AM | #22777 |
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Like Low Tech said, if they are Stateside then Walter Reed, but this would be some forward deployment. A MASH style company would be enough. Are you using the FLAGG as well, or just the Titan submarine. I imagine there would be a medical Bay onboard.
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05-29-2018, 01:06 PM | #22778 |
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Titan only. Didn’t want the headache of figuring out other vessels for the carrier group. Figured the sub would eliminate that. But I’m thinking of the sub as a futuristic nextgen carrier sub, that carries multiple helicopters. The one pic I’ve seen of the Sigma 6 sub looked like the front section opened up for helicopters to deploy.
I mean I do have lifeline & doc II on a separate Medical Company, And I have Doc as the Chief Medical Officer, so I thought I would give him his own unit. So I’ll probably cut most of the Combat Hospital and just keep the emergency room section. |
05-29-2018, 07:05 PM | #22779 |
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Airborne won't be teaching Joes how to perform static-line jumps. Instead he will probably be their jump master (I'll have that as one of his qualifications). They'll just call him Sergeant Airborne because of being a "black hat" before joining the Joes. Also in regards to Rock'n'Roll it indicates he is a "PT Instructor". The closest I can find to that in the US Army is a qualified soldier that is assigned to one of the Fitness Training Companies. Basically this is a place that those fresh recruits who can't make the minimum standards for going from the Reception Battalion to Basic get sent to. R'n'R could have been one of the cadre there during his service time. I am going to do some research on how one gets their qualifications for such a gig. Quote:
And Tunnel Rat is qualified expert in all NATO small arms. Though he seems less likely to be a weapons sergeant. I'm not sure how to align that one. Do Ranger battalions have pioneer platoons? What about their reconnaissance platoons - would they get cross trained in other weapons?
As for Grunt, he could just be a really hard-core dedicated infantry guy, hence the name. Tunnel Rat could be a Special Forces Engineer Sergeant cross-trained as a Weapons Sergeant. |
05-30-2018, 04:19 PM | #22780 |
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I think Grunt as an E-4 in 1982 would be a highly sought after soldier, by all the SOF units we can think of. Even if we view him as just a soldier, that doesn't quite cut it anymore. If he were to view himself as "Hardcore" then he would at the very least have a Ranger tab. If he just is a ball of all the intangibles commanders look for, he wouldn't stay that way for long. He could say no to Ranger school or Q-Course maybe once or twice, but he would be forced eventually to push himself. Now it could also be said that Hawk is a great commander and just so happened to grab Grunt right before he hits E-5. Joining the Joes has to be equivalent to at least the Rangers, so all the training would be covered as a Joe. Hawk needed a guy who could do everything, and Grunt filled that role. Drive the VAMP. I need another COMMs guy. Figure out this surveillance device. Help me figure out the weapons we need.
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