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01-19-2009, 10:02 AM | #2201 |
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Responded in the thread Topside. Great idea, I like it alot.
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01-19-2009, 10:58 AM | #2202 |
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just saw your response, thanks.
i've rediscovered my joes recently and i don't have the space to do anything with them right now but will hopefully be moving in a few months and have a nice finished basement to set them up. iluvcovergirl's customs have inspired me to imagine building a Flagg or MARS freighter. And a Terror Drome for Cobra Island. That stuff is just awesome. |
01-19-2009, 11:09 AM | #2203 |
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Yeah, those things are amazing. I would love to have to room to do that with. I have a bunch of "scenes" I want to make and lots of ways I want to display the stuff, but room is a big issue.
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01-19-2009, 07:15 PM | #2204 |
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Something I was thinnking about and I remembered while looking at Sci-Fi's Filecard. (He sounds more like a sniper than the other two but I've always believed they were all snipers)
YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Sci-Fi However, in 91 they started adding vehicle qualifications for the joes on their filecards. At the time I wasn't too keen on it, but thinking about it I thought that would make sense. Now no one but the pilots should be flying Skystikers or even Skyhawks for that matter, but when I was a kid Dusty was always the driver for my Armadillo. His backpack fit right in the rollbar so it worked, and someone had to drive it. but no where does it say anyone is the driver. Yet these guys would have to get trained to operate some of these vehicles. Cobras did the same thing: YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Crimson Guard Immortal CG immortals seem to have the highest proficiency. Anyway I wonder if that was something worth doing again and if there maybe a better way to do it. I figure anyone can operate the small land vehicles but what about the small aircraft and helicopters., jetpacks? |
01-20-2009, 10:56 AM | #2205 |
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I don't have too big a problem with laser weapons as long as it's acknowledged that it's a specialty and not everyone is qualified to use them. If we have Flash, Sci-Fi, and maybe someone like Grand Slam using high-tech, state-of-the-art lasers for specific purposes, I think that works. But I don't want to see everyone running around firing lasers like it's Star Wars (not that I don't love Star Wars, it should just be different than Joe). That's one of things about the cartoon that I liked as a kid but realize now is kind of stupid. That, and everyone piloting Skystrikers.
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01-20-2009, 11:03 AM | #2206 |
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It always bugged me in the cartoons that everyone could drive everything.
For me: Helicopter pilots pilot the helicopters, with some Joes being flight-worthy (they'd never be as good as the main pilots, but in emergencies they do just fine, example is Flint). Pilots fly the fighter jets, no non-pilot-Joes are flight-worthy, although some are qualified to be co-pilots (Wildbill would be qualified to fly fixed wing, but not the jets). Barrell Roll is the exception, as he's qualified to fly the jets as well as fixed wing. Anybody can get behind the steering wheel of a wheeled vehicle (jeeps), but some are better then others and have had combat driver training (Clutch, Crankcase, Skidmark, etc..). Motorcycles, the Joe had to have his/her motorcycle liscense prior to becoming a Joe and been trained on the Joe motorcycles. Tracked vehicles, only tank drivers are fully qualified to drive all tracked vehicles. Some Joes are qualified to drive different ones (Bazooka is qualified to drive all tracked). Most Joes pick up qualification to drive different vehicles. Some of the more complex vehicles (General, Rolling Thunder, Thunderclap, etc..) require major training and typically only the small group of guys that drive those receive cross-training in the others. Most Joes try to get qualified to operate the basic land assault vehicles (Armadillos) and basic sea assault vehicles (Devilfish). Jetpacks would be limited to very specific people that have received the specialized training on those (Starduster, Stalker and Duke). I liked the idea of the filecards showing what vehicles they are qualified to operate, it makes a lot of sense. But some of the ones they are qualified for (Low-Light and the General???) didn't make much sense.
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01-20-2009, 11:22 AM | #2207 |
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Quote:
It always bugged me in the cartoons that everyone could drive everything.
For me: Helicopter pilots pilot the helicopters, with some Joes being flight-worthy (they'd never be as good as the main pilots, but in emergencies they do just fine, example is Flint). Pilots fly the fighter jets, no non-pilot-Joes are flight-worthy, although some are qualified to be co-pilots (Wildbill would be qualified to fly fixed wing, but not the jets). Barrell Roll is the exception, as he's qualified to fly the jets as well as fixed wing. Anybody can get behind the steering wheel of a wheeled vehicle (jeeps), but some are better then others and have had combat driver training (Clutch, Crankcase, Skidmark, etc..). Motorcycles, the Joe had to have his/her motorcycle liscense prior to becoming a Joe and been trained on the Joe motorcycles. Tracked vehicles, only tank drivers are fully qualified to drive all tracked vehicles. Some Joes are qualified to drive different ones (Bazooka is qualified to drive all tracked). Most Joes pick up qualification to drive different vehicles. Some of the more complex vehicles (General, Rolling Thunder, Thunderclap, etc..) require major training and typically only the small group of guys that drive those receive cross-training in the others. Most Joes try to get qualified to operate the basic land assault vehicles (Armadillos) and basic sea assault vehicles (Devilfish). Jetpacks would be limited to very specific people that have received the specialized training on those (Starduster, Stalker and Duke). I liked the idea of the filecards showing what vehicles they are qualified to operate, it makes a lot of sense. But some of the ones they are qualified for (Low-Light and the General???) didn't make much sense. Yeah the lowlight bothered me too. Drive the "General" to sneak into a concealed location? I imagine it gets like .25 miles to the oil drum. The Skyhawk bothers me the most. It has to be like flying a plane and a Helicopter at the same time. Maybe it operates like a video game? The later joe vehicles were the worst. Airborne is not a pilot. Night Creepers should not be driving Hiss tanks. |
01-20-2009, 11:32 AM | #2208 |
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Quote:
It always bugged me in the cartoons that everyone could drive everything.
For me: Helicopter pilots pilot the helicopters, with some Joes being flight-worthy (they'd never be as good as the main pilots, but in emergencies they do just fine, example is Flint). Pilots fly the fighter jets, no non-pilot-Joes are flight-worthy, although some are qualified to be co-pilots (Wildbill would be qualified to fly fixed wing, but not the jets). Barrell Roll is the exception, as he's qualified to fly the jets as well as fixed wing. Anybody can get behind the steering wheel of a wheeled vehicle (jeeps), but some are better then others and have had combat driver training (Clutch, Crankcase, Skidmark, etc..). Motorcycles, the Joe had to have his/her motorcycle liscense prior to becoming a Joe and been trained on the Joe motorcycles. Tracked vehicles, only tank drivers are fully qualified to drive all tracked vehicles. Some Joes are qualified to drive different ones (Bazooka is qualified to drive all tracked). Most Joes pick up qualification to drive different vehicles. Some of the more complex vehicles (General, Rolling Thunder, Thunderclap, etc..) require major training and typically only the small group of guys that drive those receive cross-training in the others. Most Joes try to get qualified to operate the basic land assault vehicles (Armadillos) and basic sea assault vehicles (Devilfish). Jetpacks would be limited to very specific people that have received the specialized training on those (Starduster, Stalker and Duke). I liked the idea of the filecards showing what vehicles they are qualified to operate, it makes a lot of sense. But some of the ones they are qualified for (Low-Light and the General???) didn't make much sense. The jetpacks kind of bother me a little too. They just seem so ridiculous, impractical, and needlessly dangerous. And I agree that most Joes would be qualified on your basic vehicles, land vehicles especially. I'd feel confident tossing Rock n Roll the keys to the VAMP without being too worried he'd bring it back in pieces. |
01-20-2009, 11:43 AM | #2209 |
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Combat driving and just driving are two different things. All joes can drive wheeled vehicles (they have driver's liscenses afterall), but driving during combat would be a different thing.
I'm not sure if fighter pilots are qualified helicopter pilots as well, or does it require two different certifications? I think only the helicopter-qualified and fighter jet-qualified Joes can fly the Skyhawks. The Jet Packs would be a specially-trained kind of thing, only certain guys learn to fly 'em. So Flint is qualified to fly helicopters (he's on the "back-up" list behind the "main" guys: Wildbill, Lift Ticket, Windmill). He went and got qualified to operate the Armadillo, Skyhawk and Devilfish. He also received additional combat driver training on the A.W.E. Striker.
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01-20-2009, 11:59 AM | #2210 |
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In the Marvel run, Zap would fly the helicopters before Wild Bill came along. I think he even flew a few times after that, before Flint and Lift Ticket joined the team. It seems strange that a bazooka soldier would know how to fly a helicopter.
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