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07-23-2017, 02:14 AM | #22081 |
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That's the problem. I've heard on these boards before that Airborne is not qualified to sit in the gunner's seat of the Dragonfly, anymore than Zap is qualified to fly a chopper (due to their ranks), yet he's qualified to operate a "Hughes Helicopter Chain Gun" according to his file-card. I've always seen Airborne as the guy who jumps out of the helicopter when the situation calls for it (this is actually depicted on the card for the first action figure). He carries an assault rifle and wears an assault pack with sleeping bag and shovel on the back. Why would he need these if he's seated in front of Wild Bill? It just seems that he's a nice fit for helicopter support as a "gunship gunner" and assault trooper, which is perfect for the Tomahawk, but not the Dragonfly.
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07-23-2017, 02:21 AM | #22082 |
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I'd want to keep Wild Bill in the Dragonfly as support for Lift-Ticket in the Tomahawk. It's stupid that Hama always has them flying alone. Also, I don't think Ripcord is qualified to operate a heavy machine gun (at least, it's not his specialty), and there are many other JOEs who have this skill.
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07-23-2017, 02:54 AM | #22083 |
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I get Ripcord doesn't fit if going by filecard, but I used him (renegades verssion, so I guess I could consider him a new character), in that role in the same vein as Crazylegs (if I remember correctly) as Crew Chief of the C-130, with Wild Bill as pilot in issues #70-71 of the Marvel series And GI Joe resolute where Airborne & Ripcord were crew chiefs of the hypersonic transport with Wild Bill as pilot. But to be fair they could've just been there as experienced paratroppers helping Duke & Scarlett before their jump.
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07-23-2017, 05:15 AM | #22084 |
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In the Joe Team setup would the following make sense?
2 MH-60M Blackhawks, 4 CV-22 Ospreys, 2 A-10 Thunderbolts, & 4 MH-6M/AH-6 Little Birds Blackhawk pilots: Wild-Bill & Lift-Ticket Osprey pilots: Chopper (action force), Windmill, Tomahawk, & Major Altitude Thunderbolt pilots: Skystriker & Dogfight Little Bird pilots: Updraft, 1lt Frederick Bama (need a code name), Blades, & Mayday (extreme) Also need to find something for Glenda |
07-23-2017, 12:45 PM | #22085 |
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That's the problem. I've heard on these boards before that Airborne is not qualified to sit in the gunner's seat of the Dragonfly, anymore than Zap is qualified to fly a chopper (due to their ranks), yet he's qualified to operate a "Hughes Helicopter Chain Gun" according to his file-card. I've always seen Airborne as the guy who jumps out of the helicopter when the situation calls for it (this is actually depicted on the card for the first action figure). He carries an assault rifle and wears an assault pack with sleeping bag and shovel on the back. Why would he need these if he's seated in front of Wild Bill? It just seems that he's a nice fit for helicopter support as a "gunship gunner" and assault trooper, which is perfect for the Tomahawk, but not the Dragonfly.
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07-23-2017, 01:20 PM | #22086 |
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The gunner on an Apache or Cobra is also a pilot, so at minimum he'd be a warrant officer.
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07-23-2017, 01:26 PM | #22087 |
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In the Joe Team setup would the following make sense?
2 MH-60M Blackhawks, 4 CV-22 Ospreys, 2 A-10 Thunderbolts, & 4 MH-6M/AH-6 Little Birds Blackhawk pilots: Wild-Bill & Lift-Ticket Osprey pilots: Chopper (action force), Windmill, Tomahawk, & Major Altitude Thunderbolt pilots: Skystriker & Dogfight Little Bird pilots: Updraft, 1lt Frederick Bama (need a code name), Blades, & Mayday (extreme) Also need to find something for Glenda |
07-23-2017, 02:29 PM | #22088 |
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Yeah all those Helicopters need Co-pilots. Don't forget Red-zone, and if you aren't using Fighter planes, then Ace, Ghostrider, Slipstream, Payload, Countdown, Barrel-Roll, Air-Raid, Air-Raid II. etc. Don't forget Hawkwind who is also a Helicopter pilot, as is Steel Brigade Commander.
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07-23-2017, 02:30 PM | #22089 |
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Anyway, while I try to use the filecards as the basis for characters (something Hama did NOT do while writing), I almost always ignore the ranks. |
07-23-2017, 02:37 PM | #22090 |
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I can never ignore the ranks as in the US military they are paramount to how any unit is structured. They also divulge alot about roles, billets, and structure even in a Special Forces unit. That being said you are right there are a lot of promotions needed, especially enlisted personnel who should be Officers. Scarlett, Barrel-Roll, Duke, Chuckles, one of the Eco-warriors,
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