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11-15-2016, 08:53 AM | #21521 |
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While I doubt anyone who is not an officer in the aviator branches is really qualified to ride the backseat of any plane, there are probably a few Joes that have ground radar experience.
Probably all the Missle guys, artillery guys, and certain drivers of the big rigs. Probably all the computer operators too. Rampart, Heavy-Duty and Backblast. Major Storm, Steamroller, Long-Range v1, Long-Range v2, Mirage, Cannonball and Armadillo.
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11-16-2016, 07:59 AM | #21522 |
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Well, now this all has me really interested in who can run radar. I know that Hawk can, but with him being the leader of the JOEs, I doubt he'd have time for radar duty. I'm really curious as to which JOE would operate the Radar Rat and the Radar Station. After reading how important this job is concerning missile interception (see below), I could see this being really important on the battlefield and it would require a specialist! There's also the Coastal Defender, which looks like it pretty much does the same job.
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11-17-2016, 05:29 PM | #21523 |
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I'm sure we have had this discussion before, but - by file-cards - who's the lower rank:
Cobra (Trooper)? Cobra Viper? Or do they both rank equally low (less than officers) and serve different functions? The Vipers seem more prepared for war on a battlefield and useful on vehicles, whereas the Troopers seem more suited for 6-10 man short-range / quick goal missions. Last edited by seaneley; 11-17-2016 at 05:31 PM.. |
11-17-2016, 05:47 PM | #21524 |
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Personal preference I guess.
I think the Vipers were initially meant to replace the regular Blue troopers as the filecard suggests, but they have sort of coexisted for so long, its up for interpretation. Some people have them as the same and all troopers have Viper gear when they go into battle. Personally I treat them as separate entities. The Vipers being the first step when to getting into the Viper Corps, and all avenues go from there. Rank wise I would say all Cobra units have ranks just like in any military. So a Viper Corporal doesn't outrank a Blue trooper Staff Sgt. no matter the training. Certainly not an officer either. Plus I would argue that a Cobra Officer regardless of unit, would probably have gotten that position through more than good soldiering. He would probably be one of the most cutthroat individuals you could meet.
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11-17-2016, 08:22 PM | #21525 |
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I don't do this in my Joe-verse but I always thought that in its initial stages Cobra did not have a lot of money and resources so their Troopers were equipped with basic uniforms, weapons and equipment. Later as they became more powerful their equipment would change to reflect this. One way to explain the two existing together is perhaps not all the Cobra units were upgraded at the same time. Maybe more frontline units were issued Viper gear whereas support units are not as fast to get the new equipment. Realistically real world militaries do not all get new equipment at once so how would Cobra?
Which brings me back to the age old question... how does a "terrorist organization" have well trained and well equipped soldiers that number in the thousands when all they occupy is a small island? They would have to be equivalent to an actual large nation to have such a force. |
11-17-2016, 09:45 PM | #21526 |
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I don't do this in my Joe-verse but I always thought that in its initial stages Cobra did not have a lot of money and resources so their Troopers were equipped with basic uniforms, weapons and equipment. Later as they became more powerful their equipment would change to reflect this. One way to explain the two existing together is perhaps not all the Cobra units were upgraded at the same time. Maybe more frontline units were issued Viper gear whereas support units are not as fast to get the new equipment. Realistically real world militaries do not all get new equipment at once so how would Cobra?
Which brings me back to the age old question... how does a "terrorist organization" have well trained and well equipped soldiers that number in the thousands when all they occupy is a small island? They would have to be equivalent to an actual large nation to have such a force. Last edited by seaneley; 11-17-2016 at 09:47 PM.. |
11-17-2016, 09:50 PM | #21527 |
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I guess the question is how big is Cobra? Don't forget Broca Beach, and Springfield. I Think ISIS was probably 30,000 occupying territory the size of Lebanon about the same size of Jamaica or the Bahamas. Lebanon armed forces are close to 100,000 personnel.
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11-17-2016, 09:57 PM | #21528 |
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I guess this brings us to the question of militias. Most are home-grown, and each has its own ideology that keeps it from aligning with other militias. In the case of Cobra, they probably attempt to usurp or replace existing militias and grow the group from there. It would reflect the original "pyramid-scheme" that Cobra Commander originally initiated in the comics - all would ultimately answer to the Commander-in-Chief while still having a bit of autonomy for personal goals and aims. I suspect that the newer militias ("Blue Shirts") would train at home under a "group leader", while the die-hard, "24/7 Cobras" (mostly Vipers) trained on Cobra Island under Big Boa.
What I find harder to come to terms with is Cobra as a terrorist organization. They are more mercenaries for me.
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11-17-2016, 11:01 PM | #21529 |
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I don't think I am up for trying to rationalize how big Cobra is. However, I sort of see the blue shirts and the vipers like the difference between Army Airborne or Rangers, and the rest of the Army. Blue shirts are basically trained Cobra troopers, Vipers have higher training requirements. Any sadsack can be a blue shirt but the Vipers have stringent requirements.
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11-18-2016, 03:23 AM | #21530 |
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my take, as I've explained before, in Black Sword - where I was trying to be super-realistic - was that Blue Shirts were your radicalised walk-in-off-the-street barely-even-trained Cobras and the Vipers were the ex-Forces personnel who already knew how to shoot, fire-and-manouevure(sp), strip and clean a rifle and so on.
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