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10-29-2016, 02:26 AM | #21481 |
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10-30-2016, 09:58 AM | #21482 |
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Also I am trying to place Cutter somewhere. I know next to nothing about US Coast Guard jobs and extra skills they can pick up while in that service. I do not have any boat teams as I feel that if the Joes needed such an asset they would just secure the help of US Navy SWCC's. I am attempting to avoid too many logistics in my Joe team and make it as light as possible (hence no transport aircraft, helicopters, boats, etc). I thought of him having training in VBSS and also being Combat Diver-qualified (then I would place him in charge of my SCUBA Troop). He's going to take a while for me to figure out...
1) He's the leader of a USCG VBSS element from a USCG Maritime Safety & Security Team that's attached to the Joes. I know he's the only Coastie in 3 3/4 form but Hasbro made quite a few Coast Guard figures in 12". One day, I'd like to follow what Oreo Builder did and replicate alot of 12" designs in 3 3/4 form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariti..._Security_Team 2) You could make him a Coastie attached to the SEALs. The USCG had a short lived program that ended in 2011 which gave 3 USCG Officers a slot at BUD/S. The minimum requirements beyond the physical / mental etc was that candidates would be of a rank of LTJG which Cutter was and that they would incur a length of service with an active duty SEAL Team (I think it was 7 years). As for scientists, Joe lore (Comics, Cartoons, Books) seemed to have an overabundance of scientist types. I say use all of them (I do), if their skills are not readily WMD based, you could always make them social scientists attached to Joe Operations and Planning or Combat Development. I use Jane as the Head of R&D with people like IDW's Brainstorm as a program manager. Hope it helps Edit - Just had to re-affirm that he's part of a VBSS element attached to the Joes. A full USCG MSST has about 75 Coasties. The VBSS element I use is adapted from the Maritime Security Response Team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deploy...eam_.28MSRT.29 Last edited by Tyroc; 10-30-2016 at 10:25 AM.. |
10-30-2016, 02:06 PM | #21483 |
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Based on file-cards, who would you use as a logistics officer, maintaining the supply and flow of goods to JOEs in the field?
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10-30-2016, 02:41 PM | #21484 |
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From the 'Go Army' site; The Transportation Corps is responsible for moving supplies, troops and equipment anywhere on the globe. During war, the Transportation Corps utilizes trucks, boats and airplanes to provide extremely fast support to the combat teams on the frontlines. Transportation Officer (88A) | goarmy.com As a Transport Officer branch detailed to Armor branch, he could attend the Combined Logistics Captain's Career Course (attended by Logistics, Ordnance, Transport etc) where he'd emerge as a multi-function Logistician Hope that helps |
10-30-2016, 06:33 PM | #21485 |
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Based on the file-cards; Steeler. His secondary military specialty is Transportation.
From the 'Go Army' site; The Transportation Corps is responsible for moving supplies, troops and equipment anywhere on the globe. During war, the Transportation Corps utilizes trucks, boats and airplanes to provide extremely fast support to the combat teams on the frontlines. Transportation Officer (88A) | goarmy.com As a Transport Officer branch detailed to Armor branch, he could attend the Combined Logistics Captain's Career Course (attended by Logistics, Ordnance, Transport etc) where he'd emerge as a multi-function Logistician Hope that helps Last edited by seaneley; 10-30-2016 at 06:42 PM.. |
10-30-2016, 09:30 PM | #21486 |
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Long Range (Garcia) and Cannonball are also Transportation and infantry MOS too.
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10-30-2016, 10:35 PM | #21487 |
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I noticed that Clutch's primary MOS is "Transportation". I just always assumed that meant "driver of a transport." Of course, Clutch is no officer, unlike Steeler. I'm assuming this means that Clutch can help the 88A Transportation Officer with Logistics in the field if needed?
Whereas Clutch if he was used strictly as an 88M Motor Transport Operator, his duties would be; Operate all wheel vehicles and equipment over varied terrain and roadways Manage load, unload, and safety of personnel being transported Oversee and check proper loading and unloading of cargo on vehicles and trailers Employ convoy defense techniques Identify, correct or report all vehicle deficiencies Prepare vehicle for movement/shipment by air, rail or vessel Motor Transport Operator (88M) | goarmy.com The Logistic Corps has alot of specializations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ogistics_Corps That said, there are pipelines within USSOCOM's 528th Sustainment Brigade, 195th Forward Support Company (Nebraska ANG), 197th Forward Support Company (Utah ANG), a USAF unit I can't remember and NSW Cross Functional Teams, to cross train Logistics specialists in several disciplines. The Regular Army started to do that to with some MOS's. For example, a Fire Control Repairer might get some on the job cross over training in small arms and armament repair. This training would allow people like Petroleum and Ammunition Specialists to be able to operate the Automated Logistics systems (ordering), man a Water Treatment or Fuel Pump and prepare a pallet of food, water and ammunition for aerial delivery to a remote or austere location. If you made Clutch one of those guys, definitely yes. For me personally I'd think it'd be a waste of Clutch's talents. I see him more as a tactical mobility and ground vehicle specialist. |
10-31-2016, 07:26 AM | #21488 |
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I don't know if it helps but I've used him in one of two ways;
1) He's the leader of a USCG VBSS element from a USCG Maritime Safety & Security Team that's attached to the Joes. I know he's the only Coastie in 3 3/4 form but Hasbro made quite a few Coast Guard figures in 12". One day, I'd like to follow what Oreo Builder did and replicate alot of 12" designs in 3 3/4 form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariti..._Security_Team 2) You could make him a Coastie attached to the SEALs. The USCG had a short lived program that ended in 2011 which gave 3 USCG Officers a slot at BUD/S. The minimum requirements beyond the physical / mental etc was that candidates would be of a rank of LTJG which Cutter was and that they would incur a length of service with an active duty SEAL Team (I think it was 7 years). As for scientists, Joe lore (Comics, Cartoons, Books) seemed to have an overabundance of scientist types. I say use all of them (I do), if their skills are not readily WMD based, you could always make them social scientists attached to Joe Operations and Planning or Combat Development. I use Jane as the Head of R&D with people like IDW's Brainstorm as a program manager. Hope it helps Edit - Just had to re-affirm that he's part of a VBSS element attached to the Joes. A full USCG MSST has about 75 Coasties. The VBSS element I use is adapted from the Maritime Security Response Team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deploy...eam_.28MSRT.29 Lowtech's idea of nuclear weapons transported in shipping containers is intriguing for a good storyline. Although if it happens within US waters how would a VBSS team composed of USCG, USN, USMC and US Army members deal with such a thing? It seems only the USCG members would legally be able to deal with it, unless the Joe team itself is an agency under the Department of Homeland Security? Quote:
Not really no. Officers are meant to be generalists whereas Enlisted are meant to be specialists. In the Officer career there are a few branches; Ordnance, Transportation, Quartermaster which when they complete the Captain's Career Course merge into one super 'Multi-Function Logistician' MOS / Branch.
Whereas Clutch if he was used strictly as an 88M Motor Transport Operator, his duties would be; Operate all wheel vehicles and equipment over varied terrain and roadways Manage load, unload, and safety of personnel being transported Oversee and check proper loading and unloading of cargo on vehicles and trailers Employ convoy defense techniques Identify, correct or report all vehicle deficiencies Prepare vehicle for movement/shipment by air, rail or vessel Motor Transport Operator (88M) | goarmy.com The Logistic Corps has alot of specializations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ogistics_Corps That said, there are pipelines within USSOCOM's 528th Sustainment Brigade, 195th Forward Support Company (Nebraska ANG), 197th Forward Support Company (Utah ANG), a USAF unit I can't remember and NSW Cross Functional Teams, to cross train Logistics specialists in several disciplines. The Regular Army started to do that to with some MOS's. For example, a Fire Control Repairer might get some on the job cross over training in small arms and armament repair. This training would allow people like Petroleum and Ammunition Specialists to be able to operate the Automated Logistics systems (ordering), man a Water Treatment or Fuel Pump and prepare a pallet of food, water and ammunition for aerial delivery to a remote or austere location. If you made Clutch one of those guys, definitely yes. For me personally I'd think it'd be a waste of Clutch's talents. I see him more as a tactical mobility and ground vehicle specialist. I agree that Clutch should be more than just a "truck driver" (which essentially what an 88M MOS is). I made him an 88M when he enlisted and then going on to become an 11B before becoming a member of the Joe team. I feel like he needs to be more in the front lines placed in Assault Teams versus providing transportation for equipment and such. He can be that teams driver and mechanic out in the field. On another note if someone envisions their Joe team as similar to Delta he could have still been an 88M who tried out for the "Joe Operator Course" and passed. He then could have learned CQB and other "Assault"-type skills while in the course. |
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On another note I am having difficulty finding any pertinent information on enlistment times for the US Military. I understand it depends on the MOS. I knew a guy around 20 years ago that had to enlist for five years as a 95B (Military Police at the time). Does anyone have a link to this info?
The reason I ask is so I can flesh out my Joes. Let me use Grunt as an example. Maybe he enlisted for three to four years as a Small Arms/Towed Artillery Repairer then re-enlists for an additional four years as a Fire Support Specialist. After seven to eight years in the Army he goes to get his Engineering degree (another four to five years?). So maybe after college he decides he just wants to be a "grunt" so enlists as an Infantryman (another four year commitment). So by now he may be 30-31 years old (provided he joined at age 18) and serving as an Infantryman when he gets picked up by the Joes. Sounds like a lot going on but I am attempting to piece all three of his military specialties together in a "logical" way. Knowing enlistment periods would help a lot. Lol |
11-02-2016, 01:19 AM | #21490 |
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Generally initial enlistment is 6 years, usually 4 served active duty and 2 served as Reserve or Individual Ready Reserve (IRR). That said, individual contracts and type of MOS can change the length of active service depending on the length and cost of training in that particular MOS.
From military.com Joining the military is a big commitment - by both you and the military. This commitment is not to be taken lightly. Most first-term enlistments require a commitment to four years active and two years inactive (IRR). But the services also offer programs with two-, three- and six-year active duty or reserve enlistments. and https://www.thebalance.com/period-of...litary-3354093 Serving in the Army | goarmy.com Army Enlistment Contract Options | Chron.com Re-enlistement Reenlistment and Rejoining the Army | goarmy.com Prior Service https://www.thebalance.com/prior-ser...tments-3354052 Prior Service Business Rules | goarmy.com Hope it helps Last edited by Tyroc; 11-02-2016 at 01:24 AM.. |
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