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06-11-2016, 07:17 AM | #20921 |
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I thought it was a Falcon.
JediJones did an animal poll last year but it was mixed Cobra and Joe. Which might be better since the older animals won't get that many votes. http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...-all-time.html Pretty close one.
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06-11-2016, 07:21 AM | #20922 |
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There was that robot Hound for Hi-Tech as well.
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06-11-2016, 07:57 AM | #20923 |
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Great question John, I guess it depends on the context and general mission of each person's Joe team and what kind of timeframe people are using. If someone has their verse set in the 80's then it'd be appropriate to like you said, place them within the Ordnance section of their Combat Service Support element.
If you're going to be more contemporary then I think it should definitely reside within the Combat Support element. The advent of the Improvised Explosive Device and the use of suicide bombers have become as big a threat (and possibly moreso) than the insurgent / violent extremist elements themselves and brought the need for EOD technicians to the fore of the contemporary battlespace. I know that the white mission SEAL teams usually have 1 or 2 (maybe 3 now that they split into three 7 man squads) EOD guys attached. US Special Forces usually have a few guys from the 28th Ordnance Company (ABN) attached. The Marine Raiders have 4-6 EOD technicians attached to each Marine Raider Company and are organic to their Combat Support Companies (along with their Multi-Purpose Canine, Intelligence Direct Support, C4I Direct Support and Logistic Support Teams). In terms of Tier 1 units (which is how I understand you have your Joe team structured), I think DEVGRU has its own EOD Squadron and CAG / Delta have an EOD Troop in their Combat Support Squadron. Personally, I have my EOD guys in my Combat Support Squadron. At the moment I have it pegged as 16 guys in total, 4 for each of the three Sabre Squadrons and 4 in Admin/Reserve. One of my other issues is what to do about Flash. From his filecards we gather he is an Infantryman, CBRN Specialist, Fire Control Repairer (would tie in with "Electronics" on his first filecard) and a Communications Officer. Obviously in real life he could not have gone through four MOS's (I know "Communications Officer" is not an MOS but it would tie in with a Signals Corps MOS) so what to keep and what to drop? Since I want him to have unique skills I decided to drop the Infantryman MOS leaving me with three. My thoughts were he started out in CBRN and then moved on to Special Forces Communications Sergeant (would drop the Fire Control Repairer) and have him interested in electronics as a side hobby. Even with that kind of background I am not sure whether to stick him on my CBRN team or as an RTO Operator on an Assault Troop. Tyroc since your Joe Team seems to resemble a Tier 1 organization what missions do your Sabre Squadrons perform? Are they both Direct Action and Special Reconnaissance or just Direct Action? I am trying to figure out whether to make mine perform both or have a separate SR Squadron for that role. If both then the Joe Operators Training pipeline would need to teach new Joes the finer skills of SR. I want to use Grunt as an example. If he indeed just came strictly from an Infantry branch and did not have a lot of other training (in effect he is just a "grunt") then he would hardly have any exposure on how to perform SR missions so he would obviously need to be taught some SR skills (provided the that is something the Sabre Squadrons perform). Last edited by john shaft; 06-11-2016 at 07:59 AM.. Reason: Typo |
06-11-2016, 11:28 AM | #20924 |
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06-11-2016, 11:49 AM | #20925 |
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Right now I have six named Joes on my EOD team: Tripwire, Lightfoot, Tunnel Rat, Long Arm, Deep Six (Navy EOD) and Depth Charge (Navy EOD). Although i am on the fence with Tunnel Rat. his filecard specifically states "EOD" but he could also be a Combat Engineer who attended the EOCA course. Although from my understanding EOCA-trained can only dispose of certain items, not as much as an actual EOD MOS can.
Thank you for the info! I have it clear in my mind where I want to put them now (like you I will put them in the Combat Support Squadron). It does make the most sense as my Joes are Tier 1 operators (like you previously mentioned). One of my other issues is what to do about Flash. From his filecards we gather he is an Infantryman, CBRN Specialist, Fire Control Repairer (would tie in with "Electronics" on his first filecard) and a Communications Officer. Obviously in real life he could not have gone through four MOS's (I know "Communications Officer" is not an MOS but it would tie in with a Signals Corps MOS) so what to keep and what to drop? Since I want him to have unique skills I decided to drop the Infantryman MOS leaving me with three. My thoughts were he started out in CBRN and then moved on to Special Forces Communications Sergeant (would drop the Fire Control Repairer) and have him interested in electronics as a side hobby. Even with that kind of background I am not sure whether to stick him on my CBRN team or as an RTO Operator on an Assault Troop. Tyroc since your Joe Team seems to resemble a Tier 1 organization what missions do your Sabre Squadrons perform? Are they both Direct Action and Special Reconnaissance or just Direct Action? I am trying to figure out whether to make mine perform both or have a separate SR Squadron for that role. If both then the Joe Operators Training pipeline would need to teach new Joes the finer skills of SR. I want to use Grunt as an example. If he indeed just came strictly from an Infantry branch and did not have a lot of other training (in effect he is just a "grunt") then he would hardly have any exposure on how to perform SR missions so he would obviously need to be taught some SR skills (provided the that is something the Sabre Squadrons perform). The best I could come up with is to drop or at least marginalize his CBRN background, this part of his career was never used much by Hama or any of the other writers as far as I can remember. To my mind, first and foremost he's a laser trooper, not a Chemical Reconnaissance Support guy or even a Signaler, he's a front line guy who just happens to be able to fix almost anything electronic in the field, so that's how I'm going to use him in my 'verse / fan fic. As for the SR/DA missions, John. My Sabre teams are kind of both. The SR missions they perform though, are short duration leading into a strike mission for the most part. I have a dedicated LRRP troop (Stalker, Recoil, Sneak Peek, Armadillo types) who perform longer term surveillance missions. They're attached to the Intelligence Squadron. So for example, one of the spy agencies gets intel that a Somali warlord has got his hands on some stolen hi-tech sniper rifles and is about to on-sell to Boko Haram, the Joes intel unit sends out a small team to land in-country and set up a forward monitoring base, someone like Chuckles and Lady Jaye will go in under Non-Official cover to rent cars, lease storage, apartments and things, whilst Stalker, Recoil and Sneak Peek infiltrate and surveil the area, try to get eyes on the weapons, scout the area for where best to land a Blackhawk or is it easier to lase the target and get a Drone to take out the Warlord's hideout. Since it's so close to civilians, they have to do a raid, so they spend some time watching, waiting, building up a pattern of life, basically 'Find and Fix' the target. A troop from one of the Sabre teams will conduct the raid and 'Finish' the target whilst Stalker's team either stays to observe, catch anyone trying to escape or anyone returning to the scene of the crime as it were to 'Exploit and Analyze'. Hope that makes sense? |
06-11-2016, 11:28 PM | #20926 |
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There are ways to rationalize multi-MOS characters like Flash. I have him enlisting in the military to work in electronics but gets the "needs of the Army" speech and gets sent to Chemical School. Bored and dissatisfied with the career field, he keeps his nose clean, doesn't complain and impresses his superiors with a solid work ethic, occasionally fixing some hardware and miscellaneous equipment for the unit's officers and NCOs. After a year and a half in the service, he sees an opportunity to change MOS when the Army's wartime expansion leaves the 94E field under-strength and he volunteers to reclassify. After 24 weeks of training at Fort Gordon he becomes a COMSEC equipment repairer, then passes the Ranger Assessment & Selection Program, and gets assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment. Another two and a half years later he completes Ranger School in anticipation of his promotion to sergeant and realizes that he wants to fight in the field and not from behind a workbench so he reclassifies again into 11B.
*Soldiers can usually reclassify after 12 months at their duty station and if their MOS is over strength and desired MOS is under strength. And some exceptions allow ranger-qualified personnel to reclassify regardless of MOS strength if they reclassify as 11B. |
06-12-2016, 12:48 AM | #20927 |
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He seems like a good fit for SOT-A team as well, but the one thing persistent on all his cards is Electronic repair. 29E may explain some of this and his Covert Electronics training, but 45G Fire Control Repairer might be better.
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06-12-2016, 05:30 PM | #20928 |
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Tyroc I just came across these two file cards from the Argen line.
YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - S.O.S. (Argentina) YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Sparta (Argentina) |
06-12-2016, 11:52 PM | #20929 |
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I always wanted them to make a "Sigma 6" female figure so Shipwreck could ask them, "Do you want to touch my monkey?" LOL |
06-13-2016, 01:34 AM | #20930 |
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Came across this site
G.I. JOE COMMAND FILES Very interesting take on his Joeverse, very well thought out, his character profiles are impressive too, only quibble is his ranks conflict with the duty stations, for example Alpine is an 18F but is an E4, that sort of thing. Still, it's excellent work and I enjoyed browsing his site. |
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