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06-08-2016, 06:58 AM | #20901 |
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I figured that BBQ was a well-rounded firefighter before joining, with EMT training, HAZMAT training and high angle rescue. That then rolls into a variety of skills: medic, CBRN and mountaineering. He's likely also well versed in the jaws of life, so he'd be a good guy to have on a QRF to cut guys out of damaged vehicles, or back at the LZ in case a helo or plane comes in on fire (I'm looking at you Ace!).
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06-08-2016, 08:08 AM | #20902 |
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Thanks guys,
John, there are no Infantry (11B/C) billets in a Chemical Detachment, I made him an 18X dropout because all 18X guys who don't make it generally become 11B's unless 'needs of the Army' send them elsewhere. Also as an 18X candidate he'd go thru a pipeline of Basic Infantry / AIT, Airborne then the start of the SF program. Loose, here's some stuff about Hard and Deeply Buried Targets, its mostly about trying to access WMD facilities and since my Joe team is based around the WMD mission, I thought it'd be a good fit. Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons In terms of his Fireman / EMT training, I just looked up Boston Fire Department in Linkedin and based his training and that part of his backstory on real firefighters. |
06-08-2016, 10:42 AM | #20903 |
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I figured that BBQ was a well-rounded firefighter before joining, with EMT training, HAZMAT training and high angle rescue. That then rolls into a variety of skills: medic, CBRN and mountaineering. He's likely also well versed in the jaws of life, so he'd be a good guy to have on a QRF to cut guys out of damaged vehicles, or back at the LZ in case a helo or plane comes in on fire (I'm looking at you Ace!).
I like the sound of a QRF force. Something I picture my Joe Airborne Squadron doing. Although I always picture QRF more like guns blazing, overwhelming firepower to extract a pinned down unit. Barbecue's firefighter background lends itself to more Rescue Operations in my mind, but really what's the difference? Quote:
Thanks guys,
John, there are no Infantry (11B/C) billets in a Chemical Detachment, I made him an 18X dropout because all 18X guys who don't make it generally become 11B's unless 'needs of the Army' send them elsewhere. Also as an 18X candidate he'd go thru a pipeline of Basic Infantry / AIT, Airborne then the start of the SF program. Loose, here's some stuff about Hard and Deeply Buried Targets, its mostly about trying to access WMD facilities and since my Joe team is based around the WMD mission, I thought it'd be a good fit. Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons In terms of his Fireman / EMT training, I just looked up Boston Fire Department in Linkedin and based his training and that part of his backstory on real firefighters. All I can picture in the comics was ZAP trying to disarm a Nuclear warhead, when it should have been Flash? I am curious how much EOD training these guys get, especially with the high probability that when found these devices may be booby-trapped.
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06-08-2016, 12:38 PM | #20904 |
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If there are no Billets for infantry troops in a Chemical Detachment, what are the differences between a Chemical Reconnaissance Detachment(CRD), a Decontamination Reconnaissance Team(DRT) and a Chemical Decontamination Detachment(CDD)? To me Reconnaissance conveys the need to know small arms infantry tactics.
A CDD conducts analysis of said CBRN samples and in a non-CBRN environment conducts analysis on anything flagged during a SSE mission. They are trained in ballistics, tire tracks, fingerprint analysis, kind of CSI stuff. In the event of a CBRN threat they supervise and aid in the decontamination procedures (scrubbing down, chemical washes, that sort of stuff). CRDs are attached to SF Groups get alot of extra training to include Dynamic Entry, Advanced Close Quarters Battle, Reconnaissance and fieldcraft, etc. These positions are 'V' coded positions too which means all members will be Ranger School qualified. CRD's move and shoot with SF personnel, whereas CDD's belong with the Group Support Companies of the SF Group Support Battalion. DRT's are found within the Ranger Regiment's Support Companies but can act independently of them (that is, they can and will accompany Rangers in the field). Here's a neat link to the Field Manual https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-05-132.pdf |
06-08-2016, 01:50 PM | #20905 |
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Then, perhaps Slaughter's Marauders could be a QRF team, but with tanks instead of Humvees?
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06-08-2016, 02:26 PM | #20906 |
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That would be a good use for them. Roll in with the Equalizer, the Armadillo and the Lynx and blow away the opposition.
I was just reading that same FM Tyroc. The Secret being here that if any Joes are former CRD guys, (Airtight, Clean-Sweep, Ozone, Maybe Barbecue) then they are probably Ranger Qualified. Not sure if I would put them all in that category, but Airtight seems like a good candidate.
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06-08-2016, 02:59 PM | #20907 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if every soldier (by that I mean specfically US Army, not Marines, Sailors and Airmen) was Airborne and possibly Ranger qualified, even ones whose MOSs don't seem to indicate a need for it. It changes over time, but those schools are often offered as an enlistment option to entice guys that they need for non-infantry MOSs but the candidate wants to be an Airborne Ranger. They are also sometimes offered as a re-enlistment bonus and I can see the sort of guys the joe team recruiting being the sort that want to go to ranger school. I know a lot of soldiers who have a chestful of wings and badges who don't need them for their primary MOS.
Also, concur with the comments on BBQ and firefighters. I was a volunteer firefighter and EMT, and often, when a department is hiring vice having their own training pipeline for new guys, they will specify firefighter plus some other related qualification-EMT, Hazmat, etc whatever they need at the time. It might be just firefighter plus EVOC (emergency vehicle operator's course) but EMT is a "popular" skill set due to motor vehicle accidents and the knowledge EMTs have of extrication. |
06-08-2016, 07:04 PM | #20908 |
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Thanks guys,
John, there are no Infantry (11B/C) billets in a Chemical Detachment, I made him an 18X dropout because all 18X guys who don't make it generally become 11B's unless 'needs of the Army' send them elsewhere. Also as an 18X candidate he'd go thru a pipeline of Basic Infantry / AIT, Airborne then the start of the SF program. Loose, here's some stuff about Hard and Deeply Buried Targets, its mostly about trying to access WMD facilities and since my Joe team is based around the WMD mission, I thought it'd be a good fit. Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons Hard and/or Deeply Buried Target Defeat Capability (HDBTDC) Program - Smart Weapons In terms of his Fireman / EMT training, I just looked up Boston Fire Department in Linkedin and based his training and that part of his backstory on real firefighters. Thanks for the clarification! I read it wrong and thought it said he was an actual 11B. Also just for further clarification are you also indicating he went on to become a 74D MOS? I love your stuff Tyroc and I have been bookmarking the pages where you have character bios on. |
06-08-2016, 08:50 PM | #20909 |
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Great stuff as always, Tyroc. I like how you incorporate aspects of BBQ from all the continuities. I also hadn't seen that FM yet. Good find.
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06-09-2016, 09:35 PM | #20910 |
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On another note, I have now confirmed that Junkyard is a Rottweiler. (This is from my question about what breed he was a few pages back on this thread.) I just got my edition of "3.75 JOE: The Special Forces Team that Forged an American Hero." On pg. 17, the author states: "Shown here is an early rendering color study and sculpt sheet of a K-9 Trooper with his Rottweiler..." Of course, pp. 17-18 cover the design process regarding Mutt and Junkyard.
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