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04-07-2016, 01:43 PM | #20741 |
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Damn, dude. Given all the thought and work you put into it, have you considered pitching it as an original novel or trying to get a screenplay out of it instead of getting it out as a Kindle Worlds novel?
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04-07-2016, 01:56 PM | #20742 |
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The next question is how large of a unit? As it stands I have my Joes structured as having a HQ element headed by a Colonel (in this case Joe Colton) with two Sabre Squadrons (one lead by LT. Col Hawk and the other by Lt. Col. Courage) and a Support Squadron (EOD, CBRN, Forward Observers, MWD, Intelligence, IT, etc). I was going to add a Motorpool (so I could place Joes such as Cover Girl and Dodger) but that would fall more under Logistics and I am not sure a small unit would have such a sub-unit. I am constantly changing things, thus making it difficult to continue writing my fan-fic that I have been working on for at least three years.
I can't recall the exact composition off the top of my head, though. |
04-07-2016, 09:47 PM | #20743 |
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Thanks Z, I have plans for several books which can jump back and forth in the timeline. Using the Kindle worlds architecture I can use their licensed stuff without cost too
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04-07-2016, 09:50 PM | #20744 |
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You can try patterning it after the Marine Special Operations Detachment One (I think Tyroc or blackrazor1 linked to their official history in a recent post). It was the size of a company (~86 total personnel), and in terms of the MOS composition, it's fairly "GI Joe-like": the "shooters" made up about a third of the detachment and the rest of the billets were for the command team and "enablers" like motor vehicle mechanics, data network administrators, counterintelligence specialists, forward observers, cryptologic linguists, etc., all cross-trained in small unit tactics and mountaineerng (although not to the level of the detachment's shooters).
I can't recall the exact composition off the top of my head, though. |
04-07-2016, 11:11 PM | #20745 |
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Nice find. IIRC, that chart shows the second-to-the-final task organization for Det ONE. They had one more exercise prior to going to the Middle East where the team leaders realized that six- or seven-man teams were too cumbersome in the type of close quarters fighting they would likely be engaging in, so they reconfigured the teams to be four- or five-man teams instead (and this is ultimately what the MARSOC MSOTs adopted). Unfortunately, this meant that some teams did not have an assigned corpsman, though I think they had enough recon guys trained in tactical casualty care that they could serve as combat lifesavers in a pinch.
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04-08-2016, 07:07 AM | #20746 |
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You can try patterning it after the Marine Special Operations Detachment One (I think Tyroc or blackrazor1 linked to their official history in a recent post). It was the size of a company (~86 total personnel), and in terms of the MOS composition, it's fairly "GI Joe-like": the "shooters" made up about a third of the detachment and the rest of the billets were for the command team and "enablers" like motor vehicle mechanics, data network administrators, counterintelligence specialists, forward observers, cryptologic linguists, etc., all cross-trained in small unit tactics and mountaineerng (although not to the level of the detachment's shooters).
I can't recall the exact composition off the top of my head, though. |
04-08-2016, 01:49 PM | #20747 |
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At the risk of giving away the plot and details of my fanfic which I'm trying to turn into a Kindle worlds novel, here's how my Joe Team exists..
After what I will call the 'Nanzhao incident' in my book - I've actually started writing; 1) a fictional strategic paper by Colton that would set the stage for the creation of the Joe Team outlining the key security challenges facing SOF and addressing the critical needs for SOF which will attempt to explain why the Joes have a Space program, fast jets, etc. It's strongly influenced by a paper called ‘Beyond the Ramparts – The Future of US Special Operations Forces’ by Jim Thomas & Chris Dougherty. Center for Strategic & Budgetary Research Beyond the Ramparts: The Future of U.S. Special Operations Forces | 2) and a short story based on the actual creation - where they find the funding, how they came up with the Table of Distribution and Allowances, the training etc. Strongly influenced by the creation of MCSOCOM DET One in the link I provided a few pages back. The Joes will also include a small HRT element from the FBI and a small CIA element. This part of the team is strongly influenced by the reboot of Tom Clancy's Op Center - Out of the Ashes. A reboot series ghost written by Dick Couch and others. 1. Can't wait to read about that 'Nanzhao incident' 2. I can't believe no one has ever done a Fictional Strategic Paper for GIJoe as just a fun read. (WELL I BET ZULU HAS MULTIPLE TIMES), but just as a piece of Joe fiction just to add to the lore. You never know where that would go, but you should plant all kinds of little easter eggs in there like Maj. Tyroc as the first XO or something. 3. If you are including a small FBI and CIA element will you be repurposing Joes? If so which ones? Bullet-Proof, Bullhorn, Mace?
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04-08-2016, 02:22 PM | #20748 |
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1. Can't wait to read about that 'Nanzhao incident'
2. I can't believe no one has ever done a Fictional Strategic Paper for GIJoe as just a fun read. (WELL I BET ZULU HAS MULTIPLE TIMES), but just as a piece of Joe fiction just to add to the lore. You never know where that would go, but you should plant all kinds of little easter eggs in there like Maj. Tyroc as the first XO or something. 3. If you are including a small FBI and CIA element will you be repurposing Joes? If so which ones? Bullet-Proof, Bullhorn, Mace? As for the FBI and CIA, the FBI element will be the COPS characters and the CIA will be Larry Hama's SPOOKS characters. That's what I'm envisioning anyway. It'll be awhile to go. I've written the prequel and most of the first book which centers around the JOE unit having recently been stood up and a small team is sent on its first mission before it's even completed its first Capability Exercise (CAPEX) which is a no-no but because they're under the direct control of the President and the National Security Council, they can bypass the usual restrictions based on a Presidential Directive. There is precedent to this as well, during the early days of the GWOT numerous small sensitive organizations were created and run either thru the NSC (mostly SIGINT) or directly thru the Pentagon under the Defense Secretary. |
04-08-2016, 02:28 PM | #20749 |
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OK after reading the Beyond the Ramparts my favorite slide is Critical SOF Capability Needs:
•Stealthy air transports to enable combat operations against A2/AD opponents, high-risk WMD elimination operations, and unconventional warfare (Sounds like the Resolute Hypersonic transport. Maybe the Howler) •Long-endurance dry submersibles to enable the stealthy insertion of SOF into denied littorals (Deep-Six anyone? Tracker you and your "Underwater Arms Developer" SMS are up) •Identity masking technologies to enable SOF to counter proliferating biometric technologies and maintain their ability to operate clandestinely (Too bad Python Patrol is a Cobra thing SOCOM needs it more than Tiger Force) •Novel weapons systems (e.g. directed energy, high power microwave, and small precision-strike munitions) to achieve focused kinetic and non-kinetic destructive or disabling effects Battle Force 2000? •Special communications systems to provide SOF with protected satellite communications and the ability to communicate without detection in denied areas •Novel energy sources (e.g. solar cells, sodium-ion batteries) to lighten the load on operators and reduce logistical demands in remote and austere environments •Stealthy, long-range unmanned air systems to provide intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance and conduct strikes in less permissive air environments SIGHTLINE •Next-generation gunships to replace the aging platforms currently in use and provide gunship support in less permissive environments Come on HASBRO! Although the Night Attack Chopper might fit the bill here.
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04-08-2016, 02:38 PM | #20750 |
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OK after reading the Beyond the Ramparts my favorite slide is Critical SOF Capability Needs:
•Stealthy air transports to enable combat operations against A2/AD opponents, high-risk WMD elimination operations, and unconventional warfare (Sounds like the Resolute Hypersonic transport. Maybe the Howler) •Long-endurance dry submersibles to enable the stealthy insertion of SOF into denied littorals (Deep-Six anyone? Tracker you and your "Underwater Arms Developer" SMS are up) •Identity masking technologies to enable SOF to counter proliferating biometric technologies and maintain their ability to operate clandestinely (Too bad Python Patrol is a Cobra thing SOCOM needs it more than Tiger Force) •Novel weapons systems (e.g. directed energy, high power microwave, and small precision-strike munitions) to achieve focused kinetic and non-kinetic destructive or disabling effects Battle Force 2000? •Special communications systems to provide SOF with protected satellite communications and the ability to communicate without detection in denied areas •Novel energy sources (e.g. solar cells, sodium-ion batteries) to lighten the load on operators and reduce logistical demands in remote and austere environments •Stealthy, long-range unmanned air systems to provide intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance and conduct strikes in less permissive air environments SIGHTLINE •Next-generation gunships to replace the aging platforms currently in use and provide gunship support in less permissive environments Come on HASBRO! Although the Night Attack Chopper might fit the bill here. It's a very interesting read, there's so many good papers out there in the public domain. I tend to get bogged down in too much detail |
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