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03-24-2016, 10:39 PM | #20631 |
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There is one CIF Company per Group. They're apparently divided into assaulters (Teams of 20 divided into 4 cells of 5), Breachers and snipers (configurations unknown) from what I've been able to piece together.
Special Forces | CIF During the events of Dalton Fury's book, there were 4 SF CIF members attached to the troop as a Heavy Breaching Team. Last edited by Tyroc; 03-25-2016 at 04:24 AM.. |
03-25-2016, 09:01 AM | #20632 |
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So I was going through Mutt's filecards and thought I had seen Ranger School on them before but now I can't find anything about it (maybe I was imagining). Did someone make the case previously that he was most likely Ranger-qualified? If so I cannot remember the reasoning.
I am also trying to make the case for him being a former Special Operations Forces Multi Purpose Canine operator. I am not sure on what MOS you have to be or anything. It seems in the past one had to be a Military Police MOS and then go on to K9 training (to be a Working Dog Handler). Mutt has an "Infantry" SMS so I wanted to maybe have him start out as an 11B then progress to a SOF dog handler without going through the MP MOS. Anyone have any more info on the SOF MultiPurpose Canine operator? When I do a Google search it brings up mainly MARSOC information. I wanted to see what the US Army does and the requirements to get into it and such. Last edited by john shaft; 03-25-2016 at 09:02 AM.. Reason: Needed to elaborate |
03-25-2016, 09:42 AM | #20633 |
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The US Army MOS is 31K Military Working Dog Handler, so Mutt could be a 31K without having to be an MP first. That said, when the character was created he would probably have to have been an MP first.
Army Military Working Dog Handler (31K) | goarmy.com In regards to his ranger status, I think it was first raised by Troynos all the way back on page 1, post 1 "2 - Mutt is a jungle trooper. He attended and graduated Jungle Warfare Training (was even a teacher there). To get to Jungle Warfare Training you have to be a Ranger. So Mutt is a Ranger and as the same qualifications as Recondo. That just begs for a Tiger Force Mutt. So Mutt is much more then a Dog Handler". As for US Army SOF Dog Handler info, I know I have some somewhere. I'll dig around my notes and get back to you |
03-25-2016, 09:54 AM | #20634 |
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So I was going through Mutt's filecards and thought I had seen Ranger School on them before but now I can't find anything about it (maybe I was imagining). Did someone make the case previously that he was most likely Ranger-qualified? If so I cannot remember the reasoning.
I am also trying to make the case for him being a former Special Operations Forces Multi Purpose Canine operator. I am not sure on what MOS you have to be or anything. It seems in the past one had to be a Military Police MOS and then go on to K9 training (to be a Working Dog Handler). Mutt has an "Infantry" SMS so I wanted to maybe have him start out as an 11B then progress to a SOF dog handler without going through the MP MOS. Anyone have any more info on the SOF MultiPurpose Canine operator? When I do a Google search it brings up mainly MARSOC information. I wanted to see what the US Army does and the requirements to get into it and such.
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03-25-2016, 10:15 AM | #20635 |
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What if you go into a unit and be a good dog yes you are, are you a good dog?
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03-25-2016, 10:38 AM | #20636 |
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The US Army MOS is 31K Military Working Dog Handler, so Mutt could be a 31K without having to be an MP first. That said, when the character was created he would probably have to have been an MP first.
Army Military Working Dog Handler (31K) | goarmy.com In regards to his ranger status, I think it was first raised by Troynos all the way back on page 1, post 1 "2 - Mutt is a jungle trooper. He attended and graduated Jungle Warfare Training (was even a teacher there). To get to Jungle Warfare Training you have to be a Ranger. So Mutt is a Ranger and as the same qualifications as Recondo. That just begs for a Tiger Force Mutt. So Mutt is much more then a Dog Handler". As for US Army SOF Dog Handler info, I know I have some somewhere. I'll dig around my notes and get back to you Also, many non-Rangers have attended JWC. Troy may have been referring to the jungle phase of Ranger training. |
03-25-2016, 11:31 AM | #20637 |
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The US Army MOS is 31K Military Working Dog Handler, so Mutt could be a 31K without having to be an MP first. That said, when the character was created he would probably have to have been an MP first.
Army Military Working Dog Handler (31K) | goarmy.com In regards to his ranger status, I think it was first raised by Troynos all the way back on page 1, post 1 "2 - Mutt is a jungle trooper. He attended and graduated Jungle Warfare Training (was even a teacher there). To get to Jungle Warfare Training you have to be a Ranger. So Mutt is a Ranger and as the same qualifications as Recondo. That just begs for a Tiger Force Mutt. So Mutt is much more then a Dog Handler". As for US Army SOF Dog Handler info, I know I have some somewhere. I'll dig around my notes and get back to you Muskrat is the only one of the 4 Joes who was an instructor there who is listed as Ranger qualified. Recondo has never been listed as coming from a SOF background and I don't think Mutt has either. Wreckage who is listed as an instructor at JWTC when he came out in 2003 even though the school closed in 1999.
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03-25-2016, 11:57 AM | #20638 |
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Unfortunately I don't think it was true you had to be a Ranger to attend JWTC. Not sure about the instructors, but I think the school trained whole divisions.
Muskrat is the only one of the 4 Joes who was an instructor there who is listed as Ranger qualified. Recondo has never been listed as coming from a SOF background and I don't think Mutt has either. Wreckage who is listed as an instructor at JWTC when he came out in 2003 even though the school closed in 1999. "So I was going through Mutt's filecards and thought I had seen Ranger School on them before but now I can't find anything about it (maybe I was imagining). Did someone make the case previously that he was most likely Ranger-qualified? If so I cannot remember the reasoning" So I just provided the link for where the reasoning may have come from. Did we ever establish any other reasons for why he might or might not? I can't remember any. A central repository of all our findings would come in really handy That said, I'm remaking Mutt as a MP who re-ups as a Ranger qualified SF Weapons Sgt who later volunteers for the Special Operations Forces Multi-Purpose Canine Handler Basic Course (SOFMPC-B)and Advanced Courses (SOFMPC-A) at Vohne Liche Kennels. Home All Tiger Force guys are ex-SF in my 'verse and he was noted as having graduated Covert Ops school and later Special Ops school. It's a bit of a stretch I know.. Oh and John, according to his 2004 Con Filecard, Mutt was 'scooped up by a Military Police K-9 unit' Mutt & Junkyard II (v5) G.I. Joe Action Figure - YoJoe Archive So I guess he was an MP Last edited by Tyroc; 03-25-2016 at 12:04 PM.. |
03-25-2016, 12:19 PM | #20639 |
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Yeah I saw the MP on the Con filecard. I usually accept them as Canon but still have to put an "*" next to it. Like how Dial-Tone's Con Filecard says he went special forces. Still this would fit with your Tiger/Force Green Beret backgrounds Tyroc. It works for pretty much all of them but Skystriker, since there are no Navy or Marine guys in the mix.
I just read the Maurauder's Mutt Filecard. That's pretty bad. I never own any Mauraders stuff so I never read it before.
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03-25-2016, 12:30 PM | #20640 |
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I'm thinking of re-imagining Sky Striker as a TACP Air Liaison Officer attached to the SF element / Tiger Force. I don't have the Tiger Rat anyway so it's easy for me.
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