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11-03-2015, 09:36 AM | #20201 |
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Well I don't know how it works within the SMU's but I've organized my support squadron similar to how the SEALs and MARSOC Raiders use their Combat Support guys and how the Australian SASR uses them.
I have a Combat Support Squadron with a small HQ element, under that is an assortment of Troops, one each for CBRN, EOD, MWD. As an example, the MWD Troop has; HQ Cell which admin control of each team in regard to pay, training, leave and deployment scheduling etc. It has a Troop Commander, a Troop NCO who doubles as the MWD Program Manager. Then 3 teams, each team is attached to one of the Squadrons and goes through the same work up, deployment, recycle schedule as the Squadron they support. This way new Handlers don't have to go through constant Standard Operating Procedure changes and having to work with unfamiliar team mates (this sort of thing can play havoc with the dog). Each team is made up of 3 Dog Handlers and a Kennel Master. They can deploy individually or as a team. Doctrinally each dog handler is assigned to each of the 4 Troops so it works out to 1 Handler and Dog per Troop. MARSOC has 2 MWD teams (Handler and Dog) per 4 MSOT's. So it breaks down to; HQ Cell Team 1 (attached to A Squadron) Team 2 (attached to B Squadron) Team 3 (attached to C Squadron) Team 4 (Reserve / Float) * * I'd like to build up to one or two extra 'floater' teams that are held in reserve. EOD and CBRN are the same and the Signal and Intel guys work the same way. I had a similar thought process for my Support Squadron: E Squadron (Support) EOD Tripwire (83) Deep Six (84) (as a Navy EOD) Lightfoot (88) Long Arm (93) Depth Charge (03) (as a Navy EOD) Dog Handler Mutt (84) Law (87) Wide Scope (03) Signals Intelligence Sparks (07) Heavy Breacher Blowtorch (84) Charbroil (88) Barricade (92) Originally I had Breaker, Dial-Tone, and Airwave under my "Signals Intelligence" section but after reading what you had to say about Signals Corps and Signals Intelligence (and re-reading all of their filecards) I determined that Sparks was the only one that sounded more along the lines of Signals Intelligence than the rest of them. I went ahead and placed the other characters as Communicators on the various Troops. (Oh and the numbers after the characters is the year they came out. I try to keep my Joes categorized in Troops and such by the years they came out. Lol). I have also been thinking of the Forward Observers in my team. I have gone the route Zuludelta went and made characters like Grand-Slam, Thunder and Long Range (v1) as 13F Fire Support Specialists. But as with MWD and EOD I am still on the fence as to whether to make them actual Operators or part of a FO Troop under the Support Squadron. BTW I like your structure Tyroc. You really think of a lot of the details and such (something I have been trying to do for 2-3 years at least). |
11-03-2015, 10:12 PM | #20202 |
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This is a bit tangential to the conversation of whether or not Delta guys keep quals or MOSs from before. This site on the FBI HRT refers to the ideas behind the weekly training plan: 3 days on sniping or CQB skills. One day a week is spent on perishable skills. One day a week spent on individual skills or special projects. That would be a way for someone to maintain specialised demo/medical/climbing/diving/jumping etc skills.
For those into organization, it also mentions that the HRT was broken into teams dedicated to aircraft takedowns; mobile assaults; maritime operations; and strongholds/sieges. It's not necessarily suitable for a 2015 military unit, but for a '70's/'80's unit back when hostage rescue was the prime reason for being for Tier 1 units, it's a good start. SWAT DIGEST |
11-05-2015, 06:47 AM | #20203 |
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Since this just came out today. Considering this man was the living embodiment of what we imagine Joes to really be like. I wonder which Joe is most like him? I can't tell from the Fruit Salad on his chest, but I see Ranger tab, 75 Ranger pin, Delta pin on his apulets? I'm going Beachhead?
Here's his BIO (Filecard): http://www.soc.mil/Memorial%20Wall/B...ler_joshua.pdf Wheeler entered the U.S. Army as an infantryman in May 1995, completing his initial entry training at Fort Benning, Ga. His first assignment was with Company C, 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment, Fort Lewis, Washington. In February 1997, he transitioned to Company B, 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Lewis, Washington, where he served for over seven years as an infantryman, rifle team leader, squad leader, weapons squad leader, and anti-tank section leader, deploying three times in support of combat operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Wheeler was assigned to U.S. Army Special Operations Command in 2004, and deployed 11 times in support of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wheeler’s military education includes the Basic Airborne Course, Ranger School, Warrior Leader Course, Static Line Jumpmaster, Military Mountaineering Course, Basic and Advanced Demolition Courses, Advanced Urban Combat Training, Advanced Marksmanship Techniques, Close Range Tactical M4 Training, Infantry Advanced Leader’s Course, the Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (Level C) Course, Infantry Senior Leader’s, Military Free Fall Course, and the Military Free Fall Jumpmaster Course. Master Sergeant Wheeler’s awards and decorations include four Bronze Star Medals with Valor Device, seven Bronze Star Medals, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Air Medal, the Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor Device, the Joint Service Commendation Medal, seven Army Commendation Medals, the Joint Service Achievement Medal, As of 21 Oct., 2015 eight Army Achievement Medals, the Good Conduct Medal (6th Award), the National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Service Star, the Afghanistan Campaign Medal with 3 Bronze Service Stars, the Iraq Campaign Medal with 6 Bronze Service Stars, the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, the Noncommissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbon (3rd Award), the Army Service Ribbon, the Presidential Unit Citation, the Valorous Unit Award (2nd Award), the Ranger Tab, the Combat Infantryman Badge, the Expert Infantryman Badge, the Master Parachutist Badge, and three Overseas Service Bars. Master Sergeant Wheeler was posthumously awarded the Purple Heart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Wheeler |
11-05-2015, 06:51 AM | #20204 |
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This is a bit tangential to the conversation of whether or not Delta guys keep quals or MOSs from before. This site on the FBI HRT refers to the ideas behind the weekly training plan: 3 days on sniping or CQB skills. One day a week is spent on perishable skills. One day a week spent on individual skills or special projects. That would be a way for someone to maintain specialised demo/medical/climbing/diving/jumping etc skills.
For those into organization, it also mentions that the HRT was broken into teams dedicated to aircraft takedowns; mobile assaults; maritime operations; and strongholds/sieges. It's not necessarily suitable for a 2015 military unit, but for a '70's/'80's unit back when hostage rescue was the prime reason for being for Tier 1 units, it's a good start. SWAT DIGEST Nice find! I have actually been looking at the HRT recently in terms of organization. Looks similar to how DEVGRU and Delta do it, such as dividing Operators into teams of Assaulters and Snipers. |
11-16-2015, 03:32 PM | #20205 |
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anyone know a good site for finding the French/German/Spanish or whatever names for the Joes? I've got the Brazilian line covered, I'm more interested in the European counterpart names...
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11-16-2015, 04:05 PM | #20206 |
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I could have sworn Tyroc posted a link one time.
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11-17-2015, 10:50 AM | #20207 |
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http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614155-post16420.html Europe http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614165-post16421.html Italy http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614171-post16422.html Netherlands http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614174-post16423.html and http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614175-post16424.html Joe Netherlands filecards http://www.gijoe.nl/dossiers.html Also Joe Declassified did an outstanding job on all the Spanish Joes in issue 7 http://www.joedeclassified.com/ And a txt file from YoJoe which details a generic list of European releases (mostly French) http://www.yojoe.com/faq/eurojoe.txt |
11-17-2015, 03:28 PM | #20208 |
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thanks
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11-17-2015, 10:39 PM | #20209 |
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http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614155-post16420.html Europe http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614165-post16421.html Italy http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614171-post16422.html Netherlands http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614174-post16423.html and http://www.hisstank.com/forum/2614175-post16424.html Joe Netherlands filecards http://www.gijoe.nl/dossiers.html Also Joe Declassified did an outstanding job on all the Spanish Joes in issue 7 http://www.joedeclassified.com/ And a txt file from YoJoe which details a generic list of European releases (mostly French) http://www.yojoe.com/faq/eurojoe.txt |
12-02-2015, 10:57 PM | #20210 |
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Thread has been pretty quiet lately. Gonna have to make some noise. lol
I wanted to discuss Breaker. Going back to a conversation between Tyroc and I, we discussed Signals Corps vs. Signals Intelligence. To me Breaker seems more suited to Signals Intelligence because of the number of languages he knows (seven) and later file cards state he monitors Cobra transmissions and jams them (more EW kind of stuff). Also his first filecard states "Project Gamma" which according to Wikipedia was a Special Forces Group that performed covert operations (which I would assume would have included Signals Intelligence). Since I have my Joe-verse set in modern times obviously Breaker would not be part of Project Gamma but I still see him as more of a Signals Intelligence soldier. Besides him I see Sparks serving the same role as well. Dial-Tone, Dee-Jay, and Altitude seem more like Signals Corps soldiers whereas Recoil and Sneak Peek seem more like Infantry soldiers that were assigned radio's. What is everyone else's opinions on these characters? |
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