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08-30-2015, 05:20 PM | #19841 |
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I run with the idea that they joined the Joes around the time the figures were released. I've been working on the assumption that some Joes ranks went up (as they did on filecards of several) and that once the Joes were shut down in 1994, everyone from before 1990 or so, who remained in the US Armed Forces was promoted at least one rank. Some I might've promoted two. I've never been entirely clear how promotion works in the US forces or even the UK ones (my dad mentioned having to do exams to get promoted to Lance-Corporal when he was in, and ISTR that he said something about starting to study for promotion to Corporal but he left early on a compassionate discharge, due to his father's ill-health) so I just kinda promoted almost everyone one rank, with some of the major exceptions being Skystriker (already an Lt. Colonel), Captain Grid-Iron, Major Storm and Cutter (a Lieutenant Commander).
"On average, however, one can expect to be promoted with the following time-in-service (2001 statistics): Private (E-2) - 6 months Private First Class (E-3) - 1 year Specialist/Corporal (E-4) - 18 months Sergeant (E-5) - 4.2 years Staff Sergeant (E-6) - 8.5 years Sergeant First Class (E-7) - 13.6 years Master Sergeant/First Sergeant (E-8) - 17 years Sergeant Major (E-9) - 20.8 years |
08-30-2015, 05:26 PM | #19842 |
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I guess I was thinking realistically that the unit could have had more than the original 13 or so in the beginning to help flesh out the teams. Granted we could think of greenshirts filling needed positions, like Steeler's tank crew and so on, but if I want to organize some of the later Joes with older Joes, I have to start with a later time period to do so, or I could place some of the later Joes in an earlier period at a lower rank. So that way I could have Blizzard ranked as an E-5 or E-6 workimg missions alongside Snow Job in '83. Would that be a stretch in credulity?
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08-30-2015, 05:31 PM | #19843 |
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(although I think we found there was one guy who may have done this, but I don't know when. The first Special Forces Warrant Officer school graduates was in 1985 I believe)
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08-30-2015, 05:49 PM | #19844 |
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There is no doubt he's Green Beret. His first file-card tells us as much. But being a warrant officer helicopter pilot is a totally different route than becoming a Special Forces Warrant Officer. You really can't do both since its a totally different career path.
(although I think we found there was one guy who may have done this, but I don't know when. The first Special Forces Warrant Officer school graduates was in 1985 I believe) Army Green Beret Training | Military.com |
08-30-2015, 06:10 PM | #19845 |
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Yeah I am still a little unclear how successful the 18x program really is other than a recruitment tool? It more than doing push ups. So an 18 who is valedictorian of his high school or quarterback of the football team is probably going to college.
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08-30-2015, 07:38 PM | #19846 |
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Side note: As a kid, I always assumed the M.O.B.A.T. was completely automated and only needed Steeler to run it. That's why the Cobras wanted to steal it and learn its secrets (and eventually built the C.A.T.). Is that too sci-fi or is fully robotic tank of that size within the realm of possibility? Last edited by seaneley; 08-30-2015 at 07:40 PM.. |
08-30-2015, 07:41 PM | #19847 |
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Well a tank crew has a commander, loader, gunner, and driver with armor MOS so Clutch and others wouldn't fill those roles but it's all Hama had to work with.
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08-30-2015, 07:45 PM | #19848 |
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Love seeing all the changes in rank discussion. I have way too many rank changes to list. I'm trying to make my Joe verse as realistic and contemporary as possible so Hawk as the CO is no higher than O6. Most of the O2's are O4, O4's are mostly O5 and all Joes are senior NCO's. There are plenty of civilians and contractors as well.
They way I'm re-imagining my Joes are that the O13 are simply the first group to pass selection. 1983 Joes are support / second group to pass selection, 1984 third group, etc. Delta took almost 2 years to stand up. Seal Team 6 only took a few months but Marcinko didn't need to go through the standing up of a new unit process that Chargin' Charlie did (funding, new SOP and doctrine, Table of Organization and Equipment / Distribution and Allowance Modifications and approvals, Chain of Command details, etc). The Joes have always seemed to exist outside the SOCOM structure to me, like they report directly to the National Command Authority (DDP), or elsewhere. The latest IDW run was significant in the way the storyline was Congress amending the Joes' funding model and attempting to fold the unit into SOCOM. |
08-30-2015, 08:21 PM | #19849 |
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Love seeing all the changes in rank discussion. I have way too many rank changes to list. I'm trying to make my Joe verse as realistic and contemporary as possible so Hawk as the CO is no higher than O6. Most of the O2's are O4, O4's are mostly O5 and all Joes are senior NCO's. There are plenty of civilians and contractors as well.
They way I'm re-imagining my Joes are that the O13 are simply the first group to pass selection. 1983 Joes are support / second group to pass selection, 1984 third group, etc. Delta took almost 2 years to stand up. Seal Team 6 only took a few months but Marcinko didn't need to go through the standing up of a new unit process that Chargin' Charlie did (funding, new SOP and doctrine, Table of Organization and Equipment / Distribution and Allowance Modifications and approvals, Chain of Command details, etc). The Joes have always seemed to exist outside the SOCOM structure to me, like they report directly to the National Command Authority (DDP), or elsewhere. The latest IDW run was significant in the way the storyline was Congress amending the Joes' funding model and attempting to fold the unit into SOCOM. I also like how you have the Joes passing selection via the year they were released. Maybe the OG13 passed the first selection (out of a class of 200+) then several months later the 83 Joes pass the next selection and so on and so forth. My Joe team starts in 2013 where they are training and preparing the new unit. They become fully operational in 2015. |
08-30-2015, 09:23 PM | #19850 |
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I have to disregard the Vietnam vet backgrounds for the Joes. It's just too old.
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