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05-07-2015, 11:38 AM | #19441 |
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Or if they were USSOCOM itself.
Looking at this org Chart they have 11 general officers. Who knows how many Colonels and Lt. Colonels http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ns_Command.png . .
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05-07-2015, 11:50 AM | #19442 |
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GI Joe is essentially the equivalent of JSOC. At least in my world. They wouldn't both exist in the same world, but if for some reason they did, then it's commander typically is a 3 star. For a unit with only 4000 men that is a little more rank than is needed, but it needs to be because he has to be able to throw his weight around.
What we need to know is how many generals are subordinate to him. Now if your Joe unit is only the Delta portion of JSOC or just the Activity portion then no more than a Colonel would be warranted.
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05-07-2015, 01:30 PM | #19443 |
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Oh yeah. It should totally be "J". But I rarely think of them in these terms.
I liked the regional command but always ran into an issue when I get to the Arctic Joes. Then I have Action Force guys. I thought it would be cool to have 3 or 4 separate but equal teams stationed in key locations. So The Brigadier generals are the team leads. I forgot Rey as well. But I usually have them broken into specialties Rather than regions. I have an: Airborne/Air Assault/Mountain team Naval, Marine, Jungle Team Arctic HQ research team Desert Armor/artillery team Urban assault team Experimental special weapons team. I suppose they should be deployed regionally and thus ready to go at a moments notice since all are qualified to perform hostage, rescue. And all teams have some air support elements. Or to put it another way: Team 1: Dry Airborne; Dry Vehicle. Team 2: Wet Airborne; Wet Vehicle. Then have a 3rd team of "funnies" for things like medical support, sig int, CBRN, experimental vehicles and so on. |
05-07-2015, 01:33 PM | #19444 |
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...or all the bright colored guys who don't fit in anywhere else, Lifeline, BBQ, airtight and so on.
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05-07-2015, 02:15 PM | #19445 |
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Yeah I remember just having those lame-os just lumped together. I only ever wanted to play with the guys in camoflauge or at least semi-realistic colors. As my collection has grown the Yellows and Lime greens seem to work ok with the Delta-Six suit, Battle Force 2000, Action Force-Special weapons teams. I added all the flamethrowers as well since I have made them Heavy Plasma Laser troopers to go with the regular laser troopers. Sometimes they fall under Iron-Man and War Machine sometimes under Boffin.
Urban is such a big team already it doesn't need Arctic guys. I usually have the Arctic Guys with Oktober Guard. Not all Americans like the winter, but Russians have no choice. They just embrace the cold. My one regret was not taking my Oktober Guard set to Red Square and take pictures on them. Armor in todays day and age can only really operate in an area with a lot of open space Like a desert. So I lumped them together as they would still need some mechanized infantry to follow them. My Naval Assualt team would probably only be responsible for littoral areas, and insertion that way. I realize Mountain and Arctic training tend to go together, but I don't want to stick, Hit & Run, Alpine, Red Mack, and Cliff Jumper (JPark figure) with Sub-Zero and the other 12 snow guys all in white.
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05-07-2015, 04:27 PM | #19446 |
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My one regret was not taking my Oktober Guard set to Red Square and take pictures on them.
Armor in todays day and age can only really operate in an area with a lot of open space Like a desert. So I lumped them together as they would still need some mechanized infantry to follow them. |
05-07-2015, 04:51 PM | #19447 |
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That's true, but I have other vehichles which fill those rolls. Havok, Battle Wagon, RHINO for example.
The armor vs Armor probably will never happen again like the Battles of WWII. I guess I could break them out into various support rolls. For myself I have most of the tanks, so realistically its a small force of two or three tank platoons with the MMC rolling around behind them. The General would basically be a slow moving piece of artillery behind the Armor. A lot of firepower but still small. Enough to take a small nation down a peg, but then once it swtiches to Guerella warfare, they become forward Artillery pieces. My Tank Platoons: Grizzley MOBAT MOBAT Mauler Brawler Wolverine Raider and a bunch of Armadillos The Equalizer and Toss'n'Cross go with them. However the real force is the Artillery aspect of this unit should it land on your shores. I have the Rolling Thunder with the Jungle platoon. THe ROCC with the URBAN unit. Mean DOg I can't remember?
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05-07-2015, 05:54 PM | #19448 |
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I don't have a desert unit per se but just count Dusty as part of my regular infantry group along with the mountain guys, Alpine & Boulder.
Flamethrowers are part of the CBRN team along with Airtight, Ozone, etc. They contain any bio weapon threats by "sanitizing" the area. Laser guys, Flash/ Sci Fi/ Red Spot, are part of B.A.T.T.L.E. Force (Battle Android Trooper Threat Liquidation Experts) along with the Battle Force 2000 guys. |
05-07-2015, 06:13 PM | #19449 |
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Or if they were USSOCOM itself.
Looking at this org Chart they have 11 general officers. Who knows how many Colonels and Lt. Colonels http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ns_Command.png . . USSOCOM HQ Commander - Adm. Bill H. McRaven Deputy Commander - Army Lt. Gen. John F. Mulholland Vice Commander - Air Force Lt. Gen. Bradley A. Heithold Command Sergeant Major - CSM Chris Faris Chief of Staff and Command Support Directorate - Marine Corps Maj. Gen. James Laster Special Operations Research, Development and Acquisition Center - Mr. James Cluck Special Operations Financial Management - Mr. D. Mark Peterson Directorate of Interagency Task Force - Mr. Frankie Shroyer Jr. Force Management Directorate - Army Maj. Gen. Bennet Sacolick (also J1 Directorate of Personnel; J7/J9 Directorate of Training, Doctrine & Capability Development) J2 Directorate of Intelligence - Mr. Konrad Trautman J3 Directorate of Operations - Army Maj. Gen. Douglas Anson J4 Directorate of Logistics - Army Col Scott Portugue J5 Directorate of Strategy, Plans and Policy - Mr. William Miller J6 Directorate of Communications - Mr. John Wilcox J8 Directorate of Force Structure, Requirements, Resources & Strategic Assessments - Air Force Maj. Gen. Thomas Trask USASOC Commander- Lt. Gen. Charles T. Cleveland Deputy Commander- Maj. Gen. Paul J. LaCamera Command Sergeant Major- Command Sgt. Maj. George A. Bequer USSFCOM Commander- Brig. Gen. Darsie Rogers Command Sgt. Maj. Brian Edwards CWO 5 Richard R. Kunz USNSWC Commander- Rear Adm. Sean A. Pybus Deputy Commander- Rear Adm. Garry Bonelli Force Master Chief- Force Master Chief Stephen D. Link USAFSOC Commander- Lt. Gen. Eric E. Fiel Deputy Commander- Brig. Gen. Michael J. Kingsley Command Chief- Chief Master Sgt. William Turner USMARSOC Commander- Maj. Gen. Mark A. Clark Deputy Commander- Col. Peter Warker Sergeant Major- Sgt. Maj. Thomas F. Hall USJSOC Commander- Army Lt. Gen. Raymond A. Thomas III Then there are at least 7 more general officers if you include the various subordinate unified commands like SOCAFRICA, SOCCENT, SOCEUR, SOCKOR, SOCPAC, etc.
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05-08-2015, 12:56 AM | #19450 |
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I can't seem to find JSOC headquarters setup. I would guess there would be two major generals under him as the deputy and Chief of Staff as another.
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