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06-27-2013, 06:10 PM | #18851 |
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No I'm almost 100% sure they are referred to as Special Tactics Air Combat Controllers. I can't say it wasn't a gross misuse of resources but maybe they didn't have the capabilities to do it themselves and they threw everything they had at the very beginning or the GWOT.
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06-27-2013, 06:29 PM | #18852 |
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No I'm almost 100% sure they are referred to as Special Tactics Air Combat Controllers. I can't say it wasn't a gross misuse of resources but maybe they didn't have the capabilities to do it themselves and they threw everything they had at the very beginning or the GWOT.
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06-27-2013, 06:36 PM | #18853 |
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Yeah they were bombing the shit out of Tora Bora for 3 days non-stop. So I think they had the entire sky stacked to the moon, with B-52s down to probably crop dusters.
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06-27-2013, 06:44 PM | #18854 |
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CCTs really are unique in their position... the regular FAA-certified air traffic controller job is already rated as one of the most stressful jobs—I remember coming across a study a couple of years ago that stated that air traffic controllers have double the normal risk of getting MIs (heart attacks) and strokes. Now imagine doing that sort of job while shooting and getting shot at, and simultaneously doing JTAC/TACP stuff on the side. That's just nuts.
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06-27-2013, 07:51 PM | #18855 |
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Are the TACP considered Special Operations? Aren't Air Combat Controllers also inbedded with the Special Operations units like Delta and Green Berets to call in Air Strikes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Controller http://www.benning.army.mil/tenant/1...0Recruting.pdf 17th ASOS transitions from ACC to AFSOC Looks like they focus on supporting the Rangers and Special Forces. The video from my previous post mentioned that a few of them have achieved Tier 1 status.
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06-27-2013, 08:09 PM | #18856 |
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TL; DR: Ah, looks like they go through phase I and Phase II AFSOC assessment. Last edited by zuludelta; 06-27-2013 at 08:16 PM.. |
06-27-2013, 11:19 PM | #18857 |
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TACP is listed under Special Operations in Air Force on their site. So is CCT.
Careers in the Air Force - airforce.com The ones I can't figure out are the Air Liason Officer and Combat Rescue Officer. Both of them sound like the HQ version of CCT and Pararescue.
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06-27-2013, 11:30 PM | #18858 |
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Need to add to the Joe forces:
Special Operations Weather Team Specialist (that really sounds like a job the Joes would need) Aviation Rescue Swimmer
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06-28-2013, 12:08 AM | #18859 |
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TACP is listed under Special Operations in Air Force on their site. So is CCT.
Careers in the Air Force - airforce.com The ones I can't figure out are the Air Liason Officer and Combat Rescue Officer. Both of them sound like the HQ version of CCT and Pararescue. CRO are the officer version of the PJ. There are also Special Tactics Officers that are the officer version of the CCT. Like the other Spec Ops units, the younger officers spend some time as team leaders in the field. They also deal with logistics and advocating to the senior brass. You may want to check out No Room for Error by John Carney. It talks about the days before the PJs and CCTs got their own officer corps. They were treated a bit like stepchildren. Their training always took a back seat to the pilots and the senior brass didn't understand their capabilities enough to market them to the other services.
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06-28-2013, 02:37 AM | #18860 |
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