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09-12-2012, 11:07 PM | #17971 |
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More than berets, it seems to me that the Joes might want their own camo pattern... maybe? The Navy SEALs have their own special Navy SpecWar camo. The Marines have their own camo, so does the USAF and Army. Wouldn't the Joes want their own, even if it's just in garrison, they might want their own uniform regulations.
Okay, they hated the Joe insignia over everything. I'd think the Joes would have their own garrision uniform. |
09-12-2012, 11:16 PM | #17972 |
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I don't know about berets. The Joes are Spec Ops... mostly, those guys just like wearing soft covers with the exception of Rangers and Green Berets... but those guys wear soft covers in the field. This question of a garrison uniform was what prompted my Halloween costume last year: What would a G.I. Joe uniform look like? How would it honor the fact that it's a unit that's comprised of all the branches of service? What I did & Why: - I used multicam. It's a good, multi-purpose pattern and it's used by the Army. - Those are NOT ACUs (the modern style uniforms). Those are old-style BDUs that have been modified like Special Forces used to do in the 90's and early 2000's - the lower pockets on the front of the shirt have been removed and placed on the arms under the unit patch. The problem with the standard placement was when you put on an LBV/LCE, the lower pockets became useless... so SF moved them to their arms where they could still be accessed. Plus, I liked the idea of old BDUs; they're pretty 80's-style and that's important for G.I. Joe in my opinion. Just a throwback for respect. - I used the old BDU style of qualification badge placement - 80's style sew-on badges, not the modern pin-on style. It's way more comfortable and way easier. All the Badges are placed in the proper place. Foreign service qualification badges are on the right side. My collar has my rank and branch insignia: crossed arrows for SF. There are WAY too many badges on this uniform for Army regs, however, I remembered that old issue of Special Missions where the Oktober Guard makes a comment about how G.I. Joe likes to paint their logo on everything and, well, it's sort of an inside joke with this thread about how qualified the Joes are. If the Joes were allowed to show all their qualification badges - like how they paint their logo on all their vehicles - this is what their uniforms would look like. - That's a Green beret with the ROC logo embroidered into it. That was tough to find/get. I had it special made by a lady I found through ebay. I feel that if an Army SF soldier were assigned to the Joe team, he would still wear his Green Beret. Those guys don't give that up.. their nickname is "The Green Berets" for crying out loud. It's also my silent protest about all the wrongly colored berets Hasbro has given us over the years. You'll notice my arm: Special Forces qualification tab to go with the SF branch insignia to go with the Green Beret. Correct Beret Color and patches. - The boots are OTB jungle boots. They are a modern, state-of-the-art combat boot that is made to look like the old Vietnam Jungle boots that Flint wore - green and black. Those were still in service in the early 80's. Plus they look really cool and retro. - the boonie hat was one option out of many possibles. I also foun an 8-point Navy Marine style cover in Multicam and had my rank sewed onto it. The Army has never used those style of hats, but the Joes might as a way to include/honor their Navy/Marine personnel. Ultimately, I figure this Joe character of mine was an Army SF Officer who had been able to get a slot in BUD/S... but he came to the Joes from the Army; a Navy/Marine hat just didn't fit. Anyway, what do y'all think? Comments or Criticisms are welcome (except for stuff like, "You are too fat for a military uniform." I already know that; it's not the point). I look forward to discussing this topic of Joe specific uniforms.
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09-12-2012, 11:17 PM | #17973 |
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I don't think each individual soldier's uniform would honor all the branches.
All the uniforms would look the same except when it came to the patches. Each Joes would still wear their original unit's patch as well as their services insignia. |
09-12-2012, 11:25 PM | #17974 |
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09-12-2012, 11:41 PM | #17975 |
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For example. The Joes might like the Navy's Shirt pattern and hat, with the Army's camo pattern, and the USMC's style of pants. So all the Joe's uniforms would look the same - be unique - but be drawn from the other service branches uniform designs. Then, each Joe would have their own patches and qualification badges to put on their own uniform. Does that make sense?
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09-12-2012, 11:48 PM | #17976 |
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Sure but I don't think they'd purposely take pieces from other branches. I think they'd just go with what works best for what they want.
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09-13-2012, 12:46 AM | #17977 |
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I didn't mind the ROC camo. I use it for the Security and for my SEALS. Like ROC Shipwreck. I still can't stand Sgt Stone in the camo and Beret as he doesn't fit with the rest of the Marines, so I use the 3-pack version.
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09-14-2012, 12:25 PM | #17978 |
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Nice, Oliver. I kind of thought your uniform looked heavy on the badges but I guess that was the point. What's the badge above the French Parachutist badge? I couldn't make that one out.
Since I envision the Joes as a Unified Combatant Command containing all branches, I think the Joes from each service would keep their service uniforms and current battle dress. In other words, guys like Torpedo and Wet-Suit belong to SEAL Team 9, which is organic to my USJOCOM, and they wear what they would normally wear in other SEAL Teams in NSWC. I think of the Joes as an elite unit hidden in plain sight. Everyone knows they exist but they simply appear as a heavy version of SOCOM,with a Carrier Stirke Group and Expeditionary Strike Group making up the Navy Component, several Air Force Wings, an Infantry division, and a Globally Integrated Joint Operational Force made of a SEAL Team, Ranger Battalion, Special Forces Battalion, PsyOps and CA Companies, a Special Ops Aviation Battalion, a Special Ops Wing and multinational forces, including units like the Oktober Guard and SAS. They have a little bit of everything! But I decided that if the Joes, like Delta, don't want to draw attention to themselves, then perhaps it would be best if they wouldn't have distinct uniforms or berets or even a JOE tab, which I was considering making. That's why I asked about the beret color. I thought maybe they should have their own beret and flash and tab like Rangers and Special Forces, but then everyone would know just who they are. I'd rather they blend in, so the SF element keeps its green beret, and the pararescue unit keeps its maroon one, and so on. I'm still considering giving each Joe a Special Qualification Identifier for his nine-digit MOSC--a more discreet distinction. Last edited by Tanksmasher; 09-14-2012 at 12:27 PM.. |
09-14-2012, 05:17 PM | #17979 |
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Nice, Oliver. I kind of thought your uniform looked heavy on the badges but I guess that was the point. What's the badge above the French Parachutist badge? I couldn't make that one out.
Since I envision the Joes as a Unified Combatant Command containing all branches, I think the Joes from each service would keep their service uniforms and current battle dress. In other words, guys like Torpedo and Wet-Suit belong to SEAL Team 9, which is organic to my USJOCOM, and they wear what they would normally wear in other SEAL Teams in NSWC. I think of the Joes as an elite unit hidden in plain sight. Everyone knows they exist but they simply appear as a heavy version of SOCOM,with a Carrier Stirke Group and Expeditionary Strike Group making up the Navy Component, several Air Force Wings, an Infantry division, and a Globally Integrated Joint Operational Force made of a SEAL Team, Ranger Battalion, Special Forces Battalion, PsyOps and CA Companies, a Special Ops Aviation Battalion, a Special Ops Wing and multinational forces, including units like the Oktober Guard and SAS. They have a little bit of everything! But I decided that if the Joes, like Delta, don't want to draw attention to themselves, then perhaps it would be best if they wouldn't have distinct uniforms or berets or even a JOE tab, which I was considering making. That's why I asked about the beret color. I thought maybe they should have their own beret and flash and tab like Rangers and Special Forces, but then everyone would know just who they are. I'd rather they blend in, so the SF element keeps its green beret, and the pararescue unit keeps its maroon one, and so on. I'm still considering giving each Joe a Special Qualification Identifier for his nine-digit MOSC--a more discreet distinction. I do like the idea of a unit insignia for Joe patches and beret flashes. I like the idea of G.I. Joe name tapes. I don't know that's just me. You make good points, but even Delta has a specific beret flash and unit patch. I don't think there would be a "Joe Tab". Delta doesn't have a tab for their selection and training course. I don't think the Joes would ever wear this stuff on operations - they would go with "sterilized" uniforms in whatever camo/civies they would need to blend in and accomplish the mission. But I've always felt - and maybe it's just my experience from Ft. Bragg - but soldiers perform better when they look like soldiers. When they take pride in their appearance and uniform, they take pride in their unit, and they take pride in their jobs... this usually falls to the NCO's to keep the standards up among the troops... somehow, I don't see the NCOIC's in the Joe team letting standards get too lax. In my Joeverse, Duke is my Command SGM - NCOIC of G.I. JOE - he's not letting the Joes walk around/work in garrison looking like ragbags. Just my opinion.
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09-17-2012, 02:46 AM | #17980 |
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In the Marvel comics didn't the Joes wear uniforms with their code name instead of their last name & G.I. Joe instead of what branch they were in?
Later when Snake-Eyes visited Scarlett in the hospital didn't he have something on his uniform that said G.I. Joe? I know one of the MPs guarding her room said something along the lines of he didn't want to mess w/ Snake-Eyes b/c of his ribbons/medals. Need to dig these issues out. The joe's uniform were around issue #37 when Ripcord meets Bongo. The Snake-Eyes was when Scarlett was in a Coma #93-104(?) |
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