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01-07-2009, 02:20 PM | #1781 |
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That's right, SE lost his voice and burned his face in a helicopter crash involving Scarlett and some other Joes. It was after Nam.
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01-07-2009, 02:20 PM | #1782 |
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Chuckles, Claymore and that style Joe (Big Brawler?, stupid name and look for an intelligence guy) are covert ops. They're Special Forces so they can work in the field with indigeneous populations (Claymore) or work undercover (Chuckles).
They come from CIA, Army Intelligence and whatever other kind of branches they are needed from. Claymore is more military-minded then Chuckles (who is a CIA spook). They work only for the Joe team.
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01-07-2009, 02:22 PM | #1783 |
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I still think Stalker is a Green Beret because of the green beret he wears, and I think that even though Special Forces is never explicitly mentioned anywhere, we are supposed to assume that SF is part of his background. At least that's how I rationalize it.
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01-07-2009, 02:28 PM | #1784 |
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Thinking of Snake-Eyes timeline (from all the comics: Marvel, DDP and DDP's Declassified).
He's in 'Nam (Ranger Trained) Finds out family is killed after 'Nam Starts drinking Tommy comes and asks him to join family business, he rejects it. Meets Cobra Commander and does the rebel thing for a bit with CC Goes to Japan and joins the Ninja Clan Hard Master is killed Snake Eyes retreats to his cabin in the High Sierra Stalker and Hawk come to recruit him So Snake-Eyes' only military training occured in 'Nam where he was the machine gunner for his LRRP team. So he's Ranger qualified, probably Jungle Warfare, and that's it. So well the rest of the Joe team was still in the military, Snake-Eyes was essentially a civilian (essentially cause of when he went and trained to become a ninja for a couple of years). So in that light, what makes Snake-Eyes so special (militaryily speaking as Stalker, Beach Head and the other rangers have more training and more experience then SE).
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01-07-2009, 02:29 PM | #1785 |
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On Stalker's original card art, wasn't his beret camo like the rest of his uniform. I wonder if the solid green was just to save money and time as it made for a less complicated paint application. Like Snake Eyes wearing all black instead of the green pants.
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01-07-2009, 02:34 PM | #1786 |
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That's a good question, but his file card mentions extensive training in arctic, desert, underwater demo, and mountaineering as well. So is it possible he received this training outside the US military? Also, what is so special about him that requires his name and birthplace to be classified?
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01-07-2009, 02:38 PM | #1787 |
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I know. And as you've mentioned above, the time line precludes Snake-Eyes from having any extra military training after Vietnam. So he's a Ranger/Recondo. However, I don't think Recondo/LRRP training should be overlooked. It's more advanced than Ranger School. The LRRP teams were really tough. So if I compare all the Rangers on the Joe Team, Stalker and Snake-Eyes are something more because they went through Recondo school. Beach-Head, however, is also a Green Beret... That's tougher than Recondo training. Green Berets trained the Recondos... it was mostly their school.
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01-07-2009, 02:44 PM | #1788 |
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Stalker was still in the military post-'Nam and still training/doing missions (as shown in Declassified where he met Hawk). So that's most likely when he received his extra training beyond Ranger/LRRP (what he got prior-'Nam deployment).
So when did SE receive all that rest of the training? Prior-'Nam? And if he did receive it prior to his deployment in 'Nam, what was such a highly-trained operative doing in a regular ol' (relatively speaking) LRRP patrol? Unless it was a Special Forces unit?
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01-07-2009, 02:45 PM | #1789 |
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Quote:
I know. And as you've mentioned above, the time line precludes Snake-Eyes from having any extra military training after Vietnam. So he's a Ranger/Recondo. However, I don't think Recondo/LRRP training should be overlooked. It's more advanced than Ranger School. The LRRP teams were really tough. So if I compare all the Rangers on the Joe Team, Stalker and Snake-Eyes are something more because they went through Recondo school. Beach-Head, however, is also a Green Beret... That's tougher than Recondo training. Green Berets trained the Recondos... it was mostly their school.
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01-07-2009, 02:48 PM | #1790 |
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Wild Bill is a LRRP... so he's as tough as Stalker or Snake-Eyes (not counting Ninja Training).
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