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09-15-2011, 01:22 PM | #16711 |
Marinaded and grilled
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My guess is, if you count all the greenshirts and possibly support staff, it would be at a battalion level in the Army. On the other hand, the nature of its secrecy would mean a higher level of command would better suit it. They wouldn't want to have too many superior units snooping through their business, after all. It's a joint force, but its origins and bulk were/are Army. The O-13 is squad-sized, but I see it as having been piecemealed together in the beginning, and not officially part of any unit until it proved to have a steadily increasing roster.
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09-15-2011, 01:47 PM | #16712 |
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I've always liked Steel Brigade but like everything a lot of it doesn't make much sense.."Battle Corps" anyone???
I use them as S pecialist T echnical E xperts and E x Combat L eaders It is a battalion / company sized unit.(Depending on which version of my Joeverse) The first 'company' is made up of scientists who've helped the Joes in cartoons / comics. The second is made up of military and law enforcement professionals they've met and the third are ex Joes or green shirts. For example, Grunt joined the STEEL Bn when he left to attend college and Checkpoint, Rook and Red Zone were ex Green Shirts and STEEL reservists who got bumped up to the Joe team proper when they went back to active duty. As for how it works? It works kind of like the old Global Frequency comic. The Joes are in a North Korean bunker and are exposed to a weird virus. They need an antidote fast so they call up an expert they've helped in the past, like the Iranian who created the Death Angel virus and he is flown in to help Air Tight with an anti toxin Or the Joes hear of a crisis in rural Nebraska. Even with a biz jet they're an hour out. Hawk alerts the nearest STEEL agent who is a farmer, local sheriff's deputy and ex Marine Sniper Laszlo Brodsky (from a Special Missions issue) I use the PITT commandos as a Recapture Tactics Platoon. Last edited by Tyroc; 09-15-2011 at 01:56 PM.. |
09-15-2011, 02:30 PM | #16713 |
Snarkybits
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Thanks, oliver!
I always enjoy reading how you guys have everything set up. |
09-15-2011, 02:49 PM | #16714 |
I.O. SpecOps
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Of course, Larry made a few mistakes in the effort to make a storyline fit the toys. Did he know the specific meaning of that term or was he using the more general meaning?
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09-15-2011, 11:22 PM | #16715 |
80's Civil Air Patrol Cdt
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Yeah, blackrazor1, on the cover of #1 GI JOE said "Special Missions Force" and later within that comic they use a full title of "Special Counter Terrorist Group-Delta Codename: GI JOE". But yeah I took the Navy style of naming like DevGru and SpecWar, to come up with SPECMIFOR for Special Missions Force. Not quite an acronym, but i guess abbreviation for an "elite" military unit.
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09-16-2011, 12:53 AM | #16716 |
W.O.R.M.S. Commander
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I don't think of SB as a Brigade sized unit either. In fact my whole Joe unit is more like a reinforced Battalion much like a Marine MEU. I only have maybe 500-700 figures that make up that 2000 strong unit, but those are mostly the named ones.
The rest of the Joes are made up of various Green Shirt and Steel Brigade units. Steel Brigade handles the Security and would be the main force used in say retrieval of various assets. They are in themselves Special mission capable. Green shirts are the logistics and drivers, and such other more menial tasks. But also the Crewman for Tanks, and Artillery. Marine Expeditionary Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I figure the SB get codenames too, but the only way I can rationalize the "Brigade" moniker is that it has other units deployed around the world but the Joe Task Force has it's own contingent assigned to it. I would guess there would be a small company of Steel Brigaiders with the Joes. Only so I can explain the various styles of uniforms. I use the same ones as Oliver does led by Steel Brigade Commander(0-4) Usually the handle Urban Assualts as it would seem appropriate for their dress.
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09-19-2011, 10:01 AM | #16717 |
Hog Driver
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So I was wondering if anyone had a brigade-sized unit called Steel Brigade in their fictional universe. Quote:
Good question. Can there be a force called "Steel Brigade" without it being an actual brigade? For that matter, what about GI Joe itself? What part of the DoD and what level of command is it? If it is a sub-unit, what would be its superior?
My guess is, if you count all the greenshirts and possibly support staff, it would be at a battalion level in the Army. On the other hand, the nature of its secrecy would mean a higher level of command would better suit it. They wouldn't want to have too many superior units snooping through their business, after all. It's a joint force, but its origins and bulk were/are Army. The O-13 is squad-sized, but I see it as having been piecemealed together in the beginning, and not officially part of any unit until it proved to have a steadily increasing roster. Quote:
I've always liked Steel Brigade but like everything a lot of it doesn't make much sense.."Battle Corps" anyone???
I use them as S pecialist T echnical E xperts and E x Combat L eaders It is a battalion / company sized unit.(Depending on which version of my Joeverse) The first 'company' is made up of scientists who've helped the Joes in cartoons / comics. The second is made up of military and law enforcement professionals they've met and the third are ex Joes or green shirts. For example, Grunt joined the STEEL Bn when he left to attend college and Checkpoint, Rook and Red Zone were ex Green Shirts and STEEL reservists who got bumped up to the Joe team proper when they went back to active duty. As for how it works? It works kind of like the old Global Frequency comic. The Joes are in a North Korean bunker and are exposed to a weird virus. They need an antidote fast so they call up an expert they've helped in the past, like the Iranian who created the Death Angel virus and he is flown in to help Air Tight with an anti toxin Or the Joes hear of a crisis in rural Nebraska. Even with a biz jet they're an hour out. Hawk alerts the nearest STEEL agent who is a farmer, local sheriff's deputy and ex Marine Sniper Laszlo Brodsky (from a Special Missions issue) I use the PITT commandos as a Recapture Tactics Platoon. Quote:
I don't think of SB as a Brigade sized unit either. In fact my whole Joe unit is more like a reinforced Battalion much like a Marine MEU. I only have maybe 500-700 figures that make up that 2000 strong unit, but those are mostly the named ones.
The rest of the Joes are made up of various Green Shirt and Steel Brigade units. Steel Brigade handles the Security and would be the main force used in say retrieval of various assets. They are in themselves Special mission capable. Green shirts are the logistics and drivers, and such other more menial tasks. But also the Crewman for Tanks, and Artillery. Marine Expeditionary Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I figure the SB get codenames too, but the only way I can rationalize the "Brigade" moniker is that it has other units deployed around the world but the Joe Task Force has it's own contingent assigned to it. I would guess there would be a small company of Steel Brigaiders with the Joes. Only so I can explain the various styles of uniforms. I use the same ones as Oliver does led by Steel Brigade Commander(0-4) Usually the handle Urban Assualts as it would seem appropriate for their dress. Last edited by Tanksmasher; 09-19-2011 at 10:04 AM.. |
09-19-2011, 10:33 AM | #16718 |
W.O.R.M.S. Commander
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Ranger-ish backup type unit. They support the main Joes.
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09-20-2011, 10:25 AM | #16719 |
disgruntled goat
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Trying to come up with a sniper for each of my Joe teams and I could use some help-
Marines- Hollow Point SWAT- Lowlight Air Assault- Barrel Roll Cold Weather- seems like almost all of them Jungle- Desert- SeALs- Special Forces- Cav Scouts- I know Crosshair is a sniper but I havent decided what team i want to put him on yet. Can you guys think of any I've missed? I'll take primary or secondary MOS/ Rate |
09-20-2011, 11:42 AM | #16720 |
I.O. SpecOps
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Trying to come up with a sniper for each of my Joe teams and I could use some help-
Marines- Hollow Point SWAT- Lowlight Air Assault- Barrel Roll Cold Weather- seems like almost all of them Jungle- Desert- SeALs- Special Forces- Cav Scouts- I know Crosshair is a sniper but I havent decided what team i want to put him on yet. Can you guys think of any I've missed? I'll take primary or secondary MOS/ Rate You might search this thread
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