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05-02-2011, 08:29 PM | #16091 |
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True. I also wonder if the mission required some asset or training that would have made DevGru the better choice.
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05-02-2011, 08:43 PM | #16092 |
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The way I always pictured it:
If you wanted the enemy operative captured, you sent in Delta. If you wanted the enemy operative killed, you sent in DevGru.
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05-02-2011, 08:49 PM | #16093 |
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It was Rudat who wanted Low-Light to be a Navy SEAL sniper, but Hama ultimately went with the decision to make him an Army marksman. No idea why he decided to go that way, but I'd hazard a guess that part of it is that the Hasbro execs probably couldn't picture a SEAL that didn't wear anything except diving gear Ã* la Torpedo and Wet-Suit (also, probably service preference on Hama's part, he is ex-Army after all, while Rudat comes from a Marine Corps/Navy family background, IIRC).
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05-02-2011, 11:51 PM | #16094 |
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Me Too
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This may be the main reason. McRaven was a former SEAL, and this would have been the biggest feather in SEAL or Spec Ops History. William H. McRaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote:
Usually it's the Rangers who act as Security/Support for these types of Tier 1 Operations. Delta wouldn't back up DevGru; they're equals. It could be an issue of which unit was closer, or which unit was on "GO Rotation".
It is possible that the Army ISA could have been with DevGru just to sweep the place for Intel in case Osama wasn't there. They said going in that this operation wasn't a sure thing. It wouldn't surprize me, however, if the Admiral just assigned DevGru instead of Delta because they're Navy. Inter-Service Rivalry still exists.
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05-03-2011, 06:32 AM | #16095 |
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I was thinking of PMing you thread regulars this as it's not really a filecard-related question, but figured that it would probably be a lot more practical to cut down on PM spam and just present the question here.
What do you guys consider to be the definitive GI Joe headquarters? I've listed the relevant choices below:
My personal preference is Pit v3 since it was GI Joe's headquarters during what I consider to be the peak of the property (the mid-to-late 1980s) and so it's the one that most readily comes to mind when I think of "The Pit," but I'm not sure if that opinion is shared by a majority of fans who grew up with the property. Last edited by zuludelta; 05-03-2011 at 06:35 AM.. |
05-03-2011, 07:45 AM | #16096 |
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I've always been partial to the first and second Pitt under Ft Wadsworth. To me, it always made more sense for the Joes to have a base near to housing, amenities etc that a steady traffic to and fro wouldn't be inconspicuous.
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05-03-2011, 08:43 AM | #16097 |
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Marvel PIT V3 or IDW's PIT City
I never liked the idea of it being below Fort Wadsworth, especially at the size shown. Just didn't make sense that it would be so secret. DDP's The Rock is 3rd
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05-03-2011, 08:48 AM | #16098 |
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I'd go with Pit v3 as well. Followed by the Command Center and then the USS Flagg.
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05-03-2011, 11:39 AM | #16099 |
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I thought IDW's Pit, located in Nevada, was a good compromise... it's not as remote a location as Pit v3 (there's absolutely nothing in the way of military support infrastructure in the Escalante Desert region), but it's remote enough that the risks to security and to civilians are mitigated. And there's the pop culture coolness factor... IDW's Pit is supposed to be at the Nevada Test and Training Range (site of the infamous Area 51), right? I've always wondered if the Sunbow GI Joe headquarters was inspired by the 1983 Headquarters Command Center playset. I mean, obviously, the latter is probably 1/50th the size of the former, but that central cannon always seemed to me like a nod to the bunker-like toy's own central turret. |
05-03-2011, 11:42 AM | #16100 |
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I always figured that Sunbow's was based on the toy.
I liked the idea of the toy and the way it was used in the comics, a pre-fab bunker that can be airlifted. Did the laser in Sunbow ever get used?
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