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04-19-2011, 02:02 AM | #15841 |
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Except that RoC ignores that bit about the confusion about Snake-Eyes killing her brother. Granted, that piece of RetCon came later in the comic, but didn't that story from 'Nam sort of confirm that the DeCobrays were from Europe? Maybe that point, Hasbro just thought: "Well, thanks to the Cartoon, she's a European now no matter what Hama originally thought."
...Guys, we seriously need some new file cards to discuss. We're down to picking apart the voices from the cartoon - that is totally attacking our childhoods. ;)
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04-19-2011, 02:07 AM | #15842 |
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Ok, here's a "behind-the-scenes" filecard nugget that I don't think has been mentioned yet (although it's probably of interest only to martial arts enthusiasts):
In Torpedo's original filecard, it mentions that he's a black belt in kenpo (along with Wushu, Goju-ryu karate, and being an expert in the use of the balisong). In an interview with Mark Bellomo, Hama expanded on Torpedo's kenpo training. Turns out that he wanted to write that Torpedo specifically practiced Shorinji Kempo (which is basically Nippon-ized Shaolin kung-fu... the Japanese characters for writing "Shorinji Kempo" and "Shaolin kung-fu" are actually the same). Now, here's the martial arts nerd part: Shorinji Kempo doesn't actually award black belts. They award arm bands (and none of them in the colour of black) to indicate progression in the art (and yeah, there are no coloured belts in wushu either). Anyway, for the longest time, I thought the kenpo reference in Torpedo's filecard was a nod to Hawaiian kenpo, a.k.a. American kenpo (y'know, since Torpedo's from Hawaii and all).
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04-19-2011, 02:08 AM | #15843 |
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That retcon was annoying. DeCobray was an alias Major Bludd made up when The Baroness needed plastic surgery after her HISS accident. It was at the same hospital SE later had his surgery done. Then out of nowhere, DeCobray becomes her real name and everybody has met everyone else during the Vietnam War. It didn't make sense; because, Destro knew the whole time that SE was innocent, but never told his longtime lover.
I think at some point in the main DDP book (which, prior to the IDW relaunch, were officially in the same continuity as the Marvel title), the DeCobray thing was retconned again... this time, DeCobray was an alias, and the Baroness' real surname was Cisarovna or something like that. |
04-19-2011, 02:18 AM | #15844 |
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Maybe Hama didn't use those terms because I don't think "kali," as a general term to refer to the Filipino martial arts, didn't come into popular use until the late 1980s (we never actually called it "kali" when I was growing up in the Philippines... my maternal great-grandfather called it "eskrima" and as part of the public high school phys ed curriculum we had to study, the standardized form was officially called "arnis"). Before Dan Inosanto popularized the term in North America to refer to all Filipino martial arts (and some Indonesian ones) much in the same way kung-fu is used to refer to all Chinese martial arts, kali (or "kalis" as it was sometimes called in the south of the Philippines) referred either to a type of knife/short sword or less commonly, knife/short sword-fighting and empty hand knife disarming techniques. Last edited by zuludelta; 04-19-2011 at 02:23 AM.. |
04-19-2011, 03:42 PM | #15845 |
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Have we brought up known military backgrounds for Cobra? What do we know from Filecards? Major Bludd - Australian SAS and Foriegn Legion Tomax and Xamot -French Foreign Legion Guillotine - Navy SEAL Any Others?
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04-19-2011, 04:15 PM | #15846 |
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Sick of rehasing and reimagining the old Hama filecards? Well for alternate universes, there's always the Action Force/European Missions stuff.
This was my first introduction to G.I.Joe, I know it as Action Force at the time. As much as Joe is a US unit in generally accepted lore, there was something appealing about the concept of a Western international team of specialists. And the comic also gave a lot of face time to certain operatives who were quite neglected in the Marvel run. Some of these filecards seem to have been lifted from the US ones, others have been rewritten a little or completely. Check them out: PROFILES |
04-19-2011, 04:37 PM | #15847 |
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If true, that makes him pretty accomplished... St. Cyr is considered one of the top military academies in the world. It also raises new questions about Zartan: Did he qualify for St. Cyr "as himself" or was it under an assumed identity? Also, St. Cyr only accepts either French college/university graduates (civilian or military) or foreign military officers who have been nominated for entry by their respective governments (just like in West Point, the latter comprise a very, very small number of the school's student population). What category of entrant did Zartan fall under? Did he pose as a French citizen and get in via the traditional screening and application method? Was he a US Army officer who was nominated for entry? |
04-19-2011, 04:57 PM | #15848 |
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Sick of rehasing and reimagining the old Hama filecards? Well for alternate universes, there's always the Action Force/European Missions stuff...
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04-19-2011, 05:51 PM | #15849 |
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I always thought Dusty looked like he could be French, with that FAMAS, and the French experience in Chad. Back in the early '80s, the US military hadn't had any recent experience in desert warfare.
And I alwas saw Beachhead as a British SAS guy - he definitely has the SAS look down - far moreso than being a US Army Ranger. Another thing they added that I liked was mentioning that Tunnel rat had a fascination with the Vietnam war - that makes his name make all the more sense. He came out in what 86 or 87, and he looks like he dropped straight out of a 80s era Vietnam movie. |
04-19-2011, 05:57 PM | #15850 |
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I always wonder wha St Cyr was. Yeah that's pretty deep Zulu. However that makes one think that he was pretty much on the up and up untill he finished there. But when does he have time to become a ninja in training?
I agree Stormgard, Dusty always seemed French to me. Every Version except the last one.
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