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03-18-2011, 12:08 PM | #15401 |
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I agree. I felt like Beachhead would replace the badassness of Snake-EYes and maybe Rampage as his buddy..to replace Stalker.
I use to remember back in the day (Yesterday) I would line up each year in rank order. There is always a new Officer every year and at least one senior Sgt. Of course I would always change it and start combining years. I felt like Falcon was a natural Team leader, but his few appearances never oveshadowed my love for Duke and Flint. And even as my connection to Duke waned, he is still top dog. This is one of the reasons I've had no problem bumping him up to a Major so I can sort of set him apart. Still what the Joes are truly missing is an established XO. It seem like Falcon was meant to address that somewhat. His XO duties with 10th SF seems to allude to his potential role. When he appeared in the comics no other Infantry Officers outranked him. Although Claymore did, but not everyone had a Claymore figure and his character is otherwise non-existant until DDP used him. Eventually the Joes had a XO with the mail-away Colton but it made no sense since he outranked everyone. BTW that Attack of the pit trooper is one of the best figures to come out of ROC. I made mine Claymore, which I sort of like better than the one we're getting. The MAJORS: Right to Left= Doc; Psyche-Out; Major Stone(Extreme); Bullet-Proof(Totally weak hole in my Collection); Major Ivan; Rapid-Fire; Claymore; Major Storm.
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03-18-2011, 01:10 PM | #15402 |
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It's funny, to me Beachhead was always a Class A badass and, if anything, more of a "lone wolf" type than a natural leader.
But it's clear that he has been developed as one of the leader type guys. |
03-18-2011, 01:12 PM | #15403 |
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So glad this thread has been bumped. Love this thread, may be my second favorite (just after the Joe thread ;) ).
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03-18-2011, 01:13 PM | #15404 |
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So here's something that occurred to me recently--when the Joe team was formed, Hawk was a colonel and was promoted to brigadier general in a few years. All the modern "re-inventions" (ROC, Renegades, POC, not sure about Resolute) continue to portray him as a general. I think I'd prefer it if he was lower-ranked. Even lower than a colonel, maybe a major or even a captain. Something that would allow him to be leading in the field and have it be believable. I like the upcoming Hawk figure a lot but it doesn't scream "general" to me. I think it would be cool if that figure's rank was listed as major and, assuming POC lasts for a few years, maybe we get another Hawk down the road that's been promoted to lieutenant colonel.
Just a thought. And I agree Loose, the Joes do need an official XO. Sounds like a perfect candidate for an all-new POC character. |
03-18-2011, 01:17 PM | #15405 |
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Ummm Duke was established as the leader in the comic. Hawk hands day to day command over to him.
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03-18-2011, 01:17 PM | #15406 |
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I can kind of see that but to me he's one of the most well-rounded Joes (along with guys like Falcon, Duke, Flint, and Stalker) and would, over time, kind of grow into the role of first sergeant.
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03-18-2011, 01:19 PM | #15407 |
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Hawk as a General just isn't a field leader.
He needs to be a Colonel at the highest. That leaves room for Gen. Flagg to serve as the go-between with the Jugglers. Would allow for alot of conflict between Hawk and the Jugglers and Flagg having to make a lot of deals to keep Hawk and the Joes around. Beachhead just isn't a leader to me. He's the guy you use to keep the grunts in line. Falcon would make a good XO. Isn't Col. Courage the Joe team's XO?
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03-18-2011, 01:22 PM | #15408 |
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I thinks it's in line with a restart that is POC Lister. They have a Commanding Officer, and a Senior NCO.
Flagg? Claymore? Lt Stone? Falcon? Capt. Grid-Iron? Rapid-Fire? Gen Rey? Sure-Fire? Bullet-Proof?
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03-18-2011, 01:23 PM | #15409 |
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I dont have the comics to read so im firing from the hip here. What was Hawk doing during Vietnam? The reason I ask is because Im making a Colonel Hal Moore custom to replace Hawk in my verse. I love the new POC version coming and want to relegate him to Colonel and have Gen Moore running the show and acting as the go-between to the Pentagon, etc.
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03-18-2011, 01:24 PM | #15410 |
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The only mention of Hawk's 'Nam days would be in Joe: Declassified I think.
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