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01-16-2011, 10:10 PM | #14741 |
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Reading back over my own answer, I don't think I made my point clearly. What I mean is there would be more emphasis on indoctrination to the "Joe way" of doing things, new skills taught, new technology introduced. I don't think there would be the level of sleep deprivation, physical hardship and what some might call "hazing" activities. These people would already have proven themselves in their own services and then in a selection process. I don't see Beachhead having them do push-ups for 2 hours or Gung Ho forcing them to run laps around the motor pool.
Am I just rambling incoherently, or do you guys know what I mean?
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01-16-2011, 10:19 PM | #14742 |
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01-17-2011, 01:41 AM | #14743 |
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It all depends on how you envision the Joes. If you view then as a highly elite but small counter-terrorist unit, then I think the qualifications just to apply should be high and there should be some rigorous selection process.
I, however, like to incorporate various elements, like aviation, artillery and armor, so I've structured my Joe military to resemble a Heavy Brigade Combat Team whose primary purpose is special operations and that functions like a heavy version of the Rangers. Candidates have to pass a selection process similar to RASP, at which point they become Greenshirts. However, Greenshirts are not Joe qualified until they graduate from Joe School and those who do not attend or pass the school cannot advance in the organization. This allows the Joes to have various personnel working in different fields in a much larger military unit. The Joe Regiment has its own Longe-Range Recon element and an attached aviation element dedicated strictly to the Joes and operating much like the 160th SOAR, except it includes a figther/attack jet element for Close Air Support and Recon and a cargo/transport element consisiting of C-130s and C-17s. Quote:
Reading back over my own answer, I don't think I made my point clearly. What I mean is there would be more emphasis on indoctrination to the "Joe way" of doing things, new skills taught, new technology introduced. I don't think there would be the level of sleep deprivation, physical hardship and what some might call "hazing" activities. These people would already have proven themselves in their own services and then in a selection process. I don't see Beachhead having them do push-ups for 2 hours or Gung Ho forcing them to run laps around the motor pool.
Am I just rambling incoherently, or do you guys know what I mean? I like that set up Tanksmasher. Particularly for the selection process. I need to look into combining the Heavy Combat Brigade with a Marine MEB. (I like the Naval element as well) But I think you're right about the selection process being the key element. Then to become a named Joe they would complete the Joe School? This could be the Covert Ops School mentioned in the 82 filecards. What type of training would that be? I like Humpty's view that there would be some serious weapons\vehicle training for all the Joe specific equipment. This is where everyone learns how to fly a Skystriker. OK maybe not that far, but maybe the Armadillo and a FLAK cannon. But I think there wouldn't be the focus on ridiculous amounts of Push-ups. Maybe Beachhead and Gung-Ho would being doing that for the RASP/RIP type selection process or GASP/GIP in this case. But like you mentioned Humpty, being that they are named Joes, they would be expected to keep themselves in top shape. I think there would be lots of live-fire exercises for practice purposes. Occassionally the various Joe teams would pick up a greenshirt who was a support person and add them to their roster. Kind of like Mayday. Someone like Firewall would just stay Support. I think you would have older Joes move into more leadership/support roles if they are there long enough. I wish I knew more how Delta Force Training goes. They have some sort of ridiculous selection process that is 60-70% failure rate. I remember in the Kill bin Laden book he briefly mentions the training, but said it was up to the team Sgt Major's to decide what his team got. They are expected to be weapons experts and 90% accurate on a firing range, but most of these guys are such over-achievers they kind of train themselves. So I figure Duke; Stalker; Rock'n'Roll; Altitude; Gung-Ho; Mercer; Beachhead, and maybe Blizzard or a few other Master Sgts are in charge of their various teams training. These same guys and maybe Slaughter would all be on hand for the Joe Selection process, but guys like Fridge and Slaughter as Drill Instructors would be in charge of the average green shirt training and not the named Joes training.
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01-17-2011, 01:49 AM | #14744 |
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No, I wouldn't. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't describe anything I experienced in all my years as an Infantry Marine to be hazing. Hazing is a word for pussies who can't hack it. I said "what some might consider" to be hazing.
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01-17-2011, 02:03 AM | #14745 |
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I never considered it hazing till they made it personal. Then more new people arrived and I saw it from a differant perspective. I had it coming to me anyways for having a big mouth :P If you get through it you end up having a really close bond with some of those guys, they become your brothers.
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01-17-2011, 10:59 AM | #14746 |
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I agree with this, but I don't think it would be along the same lines as the schools for Rangers, SEALs, SF, etc. All of the Joes are elite operators and would have been selected because they are proven commodities. I think that the "Joe-specific" course would be more along the lines of a probationary period. I imagine that they'd be introduced to the standard protocols and then they'd be put into squad or team sized units to accompany senior Joes on training missions. Make no mistake, the missions would be grueling and designed to make sure the newbies really belonged, but I can't imagine it would be the same as these other schools.
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Reading back over my own answer, I don't think I made my point clearly. What I mean is there would be more emphasis on indoctrination to the "Joe way" of doing things, new skills taught, new technology introduced. I don't think there would be the level of sleep deprivation, physical hardship and what some might call "hazing" activities. These people would already have proven themselves in their own services and then in a selection process. I don't see Beachhead having them do push-ups for 2 hours or Gung Ho forcing them to run laps around the motor pool.
Am I just rambling incoherently, or do you guys know what I mean? There wouldn't be a physical component (at least no more then the normal Joe PT & exercise routine) but would be more tactics, signals, codes, etc..
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01-17-2011, 06:54 PM | #14747 |
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Necro-post, I know, but thought I'd clarify since it's been brought up again. Many of the old personnel/administration filing systems back in the day required all fields in a form to be filled (this was due in part because of the recording medium back then, they still used IBM punched cards/Hollerith cards to "digitize" information, and "blank" fields could sometimes pose a problem as there was no standard way to digitize the "blank" field). So the "Middle Initial" field needed to be filled, even if the person had no middle initial. The convention was to place an "X" in the field to indicate that that person had no middle initial, although sometimes clerks would also use "NMI" (for "No Middle Initial") if the field format allowed for three letters. Of course these days, they don't really need to do that anymore with the newer filing systems.
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01-17-2011, 10:27 PM | #14748 |
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Couldn't have said it better...
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01-18-2011, 02:17 AM | #14749 |
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As far as Joe indoc goes, I would imagine it might be handled a bit like it was in Tom Clancy's "Rainbow Six". In it, a new CT team is formed with members coming from Delta, SEAL Team 6, HRT, SAS, GSG-9, and other special ops groups. There's no "boot camp", just daily PT, weapons training, etc.
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01-18-2011, 03:27 PM | #14750 |
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So Ive been wondering why there's no mention of any Joe training like a course needed to pass to gain access to the team. I really liked the idea in ROC and thought it fit perfectly. lets the old team members get to know the new guys while they train instead of a bunch of vets being dumped together and expected to get a long. Plus on going training. Does it stop because you are a Joe now? Does your skill set peak when you get reqruited? I want to say it seems that way because except for a few characters most seem to keep the same MO.
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