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06-22-2010, 10:59 PM | #13771 |
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So after the movie and the research Ive done. Ive decided to change again my GI JOE Group one more time. This time into OD-A Style Teams. Im not making them all Green Berets. Just turning them into 12-14 man "A" style teams and a 16-man Naval Detachment Team (VBSS/SEAL), with a Squad of Armor, Pilots for 4 Helicopters and 1 Cargo Transport plane and a load master and one fighter. With HQ's LTC Hawk, need one more Officer to be XO, WO Scarlett, FSgt Stalker, Snake Eyes, and SFC Friday.
For those of you that care, lol, DH's Joeverse is now being hosted at http://www.kittyspryde.com
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06-23-2010, 12:22 AM | #13772 |
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Sorry for the split message, had to leave for work.
So I have four 14-man Army A-Teams, one 12-man Marine A-Team, one 16-man Naval Detachment (which does not follow the A-Team model, it contains 8 Seal and 8 VBSS crew). So to make it a 14 man team from 12, I changed the assignments of 3 of 14 men, because I couldnt come up with 2 Medics per Team. So I have one medic and one cross-trained medic for the split team operations. Then made 2 all purpose troopers per team. So the team assignments reads as follows: The Commanding Officer, Executive Officer, Operations Sgt, Asst Ops & Intell Sgt, Weapons Sgt supervisor, Weapons Sgt, Combat Engineer Supervisor, Combat Engineer, RaTelO Supervisor, RaTelO, one Sniper, One Medic. 2 All-purpose Troopers. Just to give you an idea of the all purpose troopers, Im using Grunt, Mutt, Outback, Footloose, Striker and Spearhead. I hope to find a better title for this slot. But basically they are pointman, Sniper-spotter or a cross-trained Medic. The Urban A-Team doesnt have All-Purpose troopers since it is perfect with 2 Snipers and 2 Medics. Also, Spirit is Sniper and is the cross-trained Medic Of A-001B. I tried to put them in outfit similar to what A-Team they are with. So usually the split A-teams have the same style of clothing. A-001 is mostly green 82/83 and most military looking 84/85 Joes A-002 is the ROC Desert Camo and alot of the military 86-90 Joes A-003 is the reactive armor ROC and POC Joes and the other half is Artic style joes. Bazooka and Alpine are on this team. A-004 is the Urban style ROC, Psyche Out, Chuckles and the Color Guard A-005 is Marines ND-006 The Navy Detachment. Thanks, Troynos. Thanks also to oliverbox, for for all the talk and encouragement for OD-A teams. I love this set up, it is awesome. Still there is some tweeking to do with the ranks and slots. But Im happy with the setup. Sorry, I cant be as generous as you are with the paint schemes for the figures. I dont have the finances or the skill to outfit them in all the same gear and clothes. So for now in my JOE-verse this works for me.
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06-23-2010, 12:59 AM | #13773 |
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TD-
I like that set up as well. Very similar to what I'm doing with my Joes which was prompted by the previous discussion of MIKE Force(s) and ODA/ ODB Teams. Green Berets is one of my all time favorite movies. When I was a kid I even had the cassette of SSgt Barry Sadler's songs including Ballad of the Green Beret. Robin Moore's book which the movie is based on is very good too. |
06-23-2010, 04:13 AM | #13774 |
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Love the set up TD, makes alot of sense. I use Sabre Squadrons based on the SAS but I use the ODB Team set up as the HQ element for each Squadron.
In regards to your all purpose guys, have you considered making them COLTS (Combat Observation Lasing Teams) or Cavalry Scouts? they both would enable you to use them as scouts (which they primarily are) or snipers / spotters / painting targets with laser identifiers.. |
06-23-2010, 08:46 AM | #13775 |
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And that would find a good home for Flash, Sci-Fi, Redspot and Grand Slam.
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06-24-2010, 02:31 AM | #13776 |
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So I made Hawk (Green Shirt 2 pack comic Duke) a Major the Group XO for now. Using Lt Colonel Hannibal as the acting CO, until I can find a LtC Colton for the Group CO. It almost works out as a perfect five 12-14 person "A" style Teams, a 16 person Naval Detachment, a 12 person Air Detachment and a Squad of Armor for a Group.
I just noticed something, Was Hama in the comic book designing the JOE Team as a 14-person A-Team, The original 13 and Shooter? If we think of it this way.... In 1981 pre-Helicopter crash Special Counter Terrorist Group-Delta Code Name: GI JOE -Hawk as the CO [Captain or Major] (Prior Artillery Officer) -Scarlett as the XO [WO2] -Stalker as the Operations Sergeant & cross-trained Medic [MSgt] -Snake Eyes as the Asst. Operations & Intelligence Sergeant cross-trained Weapons & Medic [SFC] -Rock'N Roll as the Weapons Supervisor [Heavy Weapons][SFC] -Grunt as Light Weapons Sergeant with some Communications training -Zap as the Combat Engineer Supervisor cross-trained in Artillery Weapons -Clutch as the Engineering Sergeant (prior Vehicle Driver) -Steeler as Armor Artillery Weapons Sergeant (prior tank jockey) -Short-Fuze as the Artillery Weapons Sergeant cross-trained in Engineering (prior Motar-man) -Flash as Electronic Weapons Sergeant cross-trained Communications -Grand Slam as Electronic Artillery Weapons Sergeant cross-trained in Communications -Breaker as the Communications Supervisor -Shooter as the Sniper. IMO NOTE: Artillery is still important in this unit more so than green berets because mobile large ordinance and vehicles are required in anti-terrorist operations. IMO NOTE 2: Hama was encouraged by Hasbro to multiply the force and the A-Team idea fell apart.
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06-24-2010, 03:19 AM | #13777 |
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I just noticed something, Was Hama in the comic book designing the JOE Team as a 14-person A-Team, The original 13 and Shooter? If we think of it this way....
In 1981 pre-Helicopter crash Special Counter Terrorist Group-Delta Code Name: GI JOE -Hawk as a the CO [Captain or Major] (Prior Artillery Officer) -Scarlett as the XO [WO2] -Stalker as the Operations Sergeant & cross-trained Medic [MSgt] -Snake Eyes as the Asst. Operations & Intelligence Sergeant cross-trained Weapons & Medic [SFC] -Rock'N Roll as the Weapons Supervisor [Heavy Weapons][SFC] -Grunt as Light Weapons Sergeant with some Communications training -Zap as the Combat Engineer Supervisor cross-trained in Artillery Weapons -Clutch as the Engineering Sergeant (prior Vehicle Driver) -Steeler as an Engineering Sergeant Cross-trained in Artillery Weapons (prior tank jockey) -Short-Fuze as the Artillery Weapons Sergeant cross-trained in Engineering (prior Motar-man) -Flash as Electronic Weapons Sergeant cross-trained Communications -Grand Slam as Electronic Artillery Weapons Sergeant cross-trained in Communications -Breaker as the Communications Supervisor -Shooter as the Sniper-works alone, not usually on active roster. IMO NOTE: Artillery is still important in this unit more so than green berets because mobile large ordinance and vehicles are required in anti-terrorist operations. IMO NOTE 2: Hama was encouraged by Hasbro to multiply the force and the A Team idea fell apart.
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06-24-2010, 03:46 AM | #13778 |
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I agree with Blackrazor.
The more I read, the less stock I put in the idea that Mr. Hama had ANY CLUE about what the heck was going on within his continuity. He was throwing stories together and just adding in new characters whenever Hasbro told him to. After my email exchanges with him, I have come to firmly believe that this thread has put far more thought and research effort into the Joe continuity than Mr. Hama ever didn.
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06-24-2010, 03:47 AM | #13779 |
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Are any of the Joes married? I've never read anything in any of the file cards. I haven't read the comics since the Marvel run. I seem to remember Mainframe mentioning an ex-wife on the cartoon series.
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06-24-2010, 03:59 AM | #13780 |
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Married Joes, off the top of my head;
Flint and Lady Jaye Grunt and Lola (a former Army medic he met in college) with kids Stalker and ? with kid and step kid Wet Suit and ? with at least one kid Snake Eyes and Scarlett (engaged) |
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