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04-22-2010, 11:09 PM | #12891 |
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Even guys like Grunt have a special quality about them. I think he would be perfect Ranger material even though his file card doesn't even hint at this. I think most of the Joes should come from some SOF, except for those that have certain skills or a particular job specialty that does't require being apart of an SOF unit, like Shipwreck or Ace.
When Delta Started, and when the ISA started - from everything I've read - the founders were all guys who knew each other in 'Nam and they were like, "Hey, I knew a guy who was pretty good as 'such & such', we should give him a call and see if he's interested." Those units weren't so desireable or elite back in the day. Remember that 5th Group started Blue Light Group to fight terrorism and they were shut down - Delta and the ISA were seen as risky career moves. I think Grunt was just a good soldier, and they needed a solid Infantryman - no frills, nothing crazy, just a soldier who knew how to be a soldier - We know Grunt has to be Airborne qualified, so he probably came spit-shined from the 82nd. So before it was cool to be a Joe, Grunt got asked by some crazy Artillery Colonel to take a chance on a new secret unit... I think that's how it happened back in the old days.
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04-22-2010, 11:16 PM | #12892 |
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Firt Priority goes to Infantry Officers - primarily the new LT's. A new LT gets commisioned, goes straight in IOBC, Airborne, and then is Volentold to report to Ranger School. That's the deal. If you ever seen an Infantry Officer without a Ranger Tab, he was a washout - and he'll most likely never see LTC. After that, all Special Ops personel gets priority. Some guy from SF wants to get his Ranger Tab, he gets to go. No problem. Same for most Special Ops guys - SEALs, MARSOC, Air Force Pararescue, even the Army's Special Ops Support like PsyOps, etc. Then slots go to Infantry Units - and these are allocated to RDF units first: 82nd, 173rd, 101st, 10th, etc. Then it's up to each Division to divide up the slots - usually there is a priority given to LRSC units (Pathfinders), and then Infantry companies. Most of the time, NCO's are given the opportunity to go. But they're often used as incentives for good soldiers who they want to keep and turn into NCO's. make sense?
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04-22-2010, 11:19 PM | #12893 |
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That depends. You can sign a contract to get a tryout slot with Rangers, SF, SEALs, SWCC, USN EOD, and USMC Recon. I'm sure some other units do the same thing. A lot of file cards mention applying/pestering the brass to get on the team. That indicates an application process. It also indicates that the Joes aren't that secret. You also have lower ranking Joes (Slipstream, Falcon, Ambush) who haven't been in the service long enough to distinguish themsleves. Richard Marcinko said even an elite unit like SEAL Team 6 needed "cannon fodder". The Joes started out as a hi-tech futuristic fighting force. Who better to recruit than young people who use the latest technology everyday.
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04-22-2010, 11:38 PM | #12894 |
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04-23-2010, 12:43 AM | #12895 |
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I think the only problem with Spearhead being a Ranger, or any guy on the Joe Team who is E-4 who doesn't come out of the Airborne Rangers (A term I think is analogous with the 75th), is they would have just got sent to Ranger school. The Ranger Orientation Program, is for the E-5s from other units who want to move up. So Spearhead is below requirements there. But maybe as an E-4 they would send him, but they would be pissed if they sent him and then he gets whisked away by the Joes. Even more pissed if he finishes Ranger School and then applies for the Joes.
Still if Spearhead is from 75th proper he would probably finished his training earlier. Still how many Joes are recruited and how many apply?
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04-23-2010, 12:47 AM | #12896 |
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I wonder what GIJoe requirements are for physical fitness? I would assume they would forgo this part entirely because they only take Spec Op guys who already passed stringent fitness requirements. They need these guys on the ground imediately.
It's like drafting a Running Back or Offensive lineman over a Wide-Receiver. O-Line guys and RBacks can be put into action right away.
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04-23-2010, 12:49 AM | #12897 |
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I think the only problem with Spearhead being a Ranger, or any guy on the Joe Team who is E-4 who doesn't come out of the Airborne Rangers (A term I think is analogous with the 75th), is they would have just got sent to Ranger school. The Ranger Orientation Program, is for the E-5s from other units who want to move up. So Spearhead is below requirements there. But maybe as an E-4 they would send him, but they would be pissed if they sent him and then he gets whisked away by the Joes. Even more pissed if he finishes Ranger School and then applies for the Joes.
Still if Spearhead is from 75th proper he would probably finished his training earlier. Still how many Joes are recruited and how many apply? That's a great question about how many are recruited? No one applies for Delta or ISA - you get invited to try out. I figure it's the same for the Joes.
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04-23-2010, 01:18 AM | #12898 |
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I think the only problem with Spearhead being a Ranger, or any guy on the Joe Team who is E-4 who doesn't come out of the Airborne Rangers (A term I think is analogous with the 75th), is they would have just got sent to Ranger school. The Ranger Orientation Program, is for the E-5s from other units who want to move up. So Spearhead is below requirements there. But maybe as an E-4 they would send him, but they would be pissed if they sent him and then he gets whisked away by the Joes. Even more pissed if he finishes Ranger School and then applies for the Joes.
Still if Spearhead is from 75th proper he would probably finished his training earlier. Still how many Joes are recruited and how many apply? In general terms, lower ranks apply, higher ranks recruited. Of course you'll some exceptions.
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04-23-2010, 05:12 AM | #12899 |
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So is Ranger school for E-4? It seems like it would only be open to E-5. I can't find an answer. The Ranger Indoctrination Program (RIP which is now RASP) is for Ranger battalion recruits, but you don't get the Ranger Tab for that.
Ranger School (9 weeks) is the Army's premier infantry leadership course. Which I guess a 75th Ranger E-4 Corporal would probably go to, but if they are coming from another unit they have to be E-5? But what about Alpine, Muskrat, Lady Jaye, Crankcase, Clutch,?
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04-23-2010, 05:56 AM | #12900 |
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So is Ranger school for E-4? It seems like it would only be open to E-5. I can't find an answer. The Ranger Indoctrination Program (RIP which is now RASP) is for Ranger battalion recruits, but you don't get the Ranger Tab for that.
Ranger School (9 weeks) is the Army's premier infantry leadership course. Which I guess a 75th Ranger E-4 Corporal would probably go to, but if they are coming from another unit they have to be E-5? But what about Alpine, Muskrat, Lady Jaye, Crankcase, Clutch,? https://www.benning.army.mil/rtb/RAN...nderletter.pdf
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