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03-19-2010, 01:17 AM | #12241 |
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Ripcord should so be a Green Beret. Does Civil Air Patrol mean you can fly planes? So if ROC Ripcord is Special Forces do you use him as such? I haven't really included him in my verse yet. I was sort of waiting for the one that really looks like an airborne trooper, but I don't know what I'm going to call him. (Static Line is so hurting for an update.) I remember in the 80's doing several simulations where we spent all day at an airport and the field. Like a day in the Air Force. One time During FLAG DAY 1987, we went to an Airport around Kansas City area, the briefing started like any other windspeed, weather conditions, then the seriousness changed, the Wing Commander stated we were getting reports from Washington of drug traffickers using Cessna single engine planes and that the Air Force was downing these aircrafts and needed assistance in search & seizing these men and aircraft. So my first assignment was in an old Air Force ambulance converted for radio duty. To find the aircraft using what looked like a UHF attennae affixed to a handheld box on frequency 121.5 with the use of Helicopters and light planes and ground vehicles via radio, smoke and hand signals modes of communications, we searched for these planes that were forced down. After our sixth "rescue" assignment, MSgt Beeson and I was a Tech Sgt at the time was called and swept away from our Squadron for our next assignment, taken to apply injury makeup and we rode in a truck to the middle of No-where, Kansas with a few pieces of Cessna aircraft parts and a black box. We sat around waiting around for our 'rescue', ironically talking about GI JOE, MASK & Iron Eagle. After our "RESCUE" I spent the rest of the day at Headquarters doing "GO-FOR" jobs. One of my favorites jobs was the origin of my screenname/codename: I was a runner working in conjunction with the tower TAKE-ingDOWN tail numbers of Aircraft taking off and landing for visual confirmation of which aircraft was in the air, to relay the information of 'Friendlies' to the Air Force. It was awesome for a 14 year old. So I consider Ripcord and Slipstream were Cadets as teenagers in the Civil Air Patrol. I never heard it referred to as Junior Civil Air Patrol, tho maybe some places it was.
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03-19-2010, 02:15 AM | #12242 |
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That sounded like a good experience Takedown. So they don't give any instruction on piloting aircraft? When you say log hours to be a Cadet Sgt. does that mean flyin
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03-19-2010, 02:24 AM | #12243 |
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Logic goes out the window.
I forget if it was even mentioned. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Red Dawn. Awesome movie (and god I hope they don't butcher the remake, but I'm not sure how they can even make a remake and still have it be Red Dawn). But logic and that movie have no place together. I loved Red Dawn. I can't remember if they explained how it was possible. They flew over Canada right? I always thought it was North Dakota. But really Invasion USA couldn't really happen with just Cuba and Russia, if Canada and Mexico teamed up, then we'd be in trouble. |
03-19-2010, 02:36 AM | #12244 |
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Now, I'm going to make a bit of a strech here:
This version of Dusty was issued with a Green Beret, and his language skills were already established in earlier file cards. Now it mentions Flint as his partner on his file card. Now, Flint had been established as a Desert HALO jumper in his previous 2 versions at that time, but he was always listed as Special Forces. So I'm going out on a limb and saying that this Convention "file card" adds to the circumstancial evidence that Dusty is Special Forces. It's certainly not conclusive, but it's good enough for me to add him to my ODA Team - and I've been working on the figure. I think it's going to turn out really, really well. What do y'all think? But why not? I feel like all the other Survival guys are probably Green Berets too, like Outback, and Big Brawler, and Recondo, and just about any other Joe with a beard or serious facial hair. Speaking of Green Berets I just watched Rambo for the first time. That was an amazingly over-the-top bloodbath. Some cheesy moments but I loved it. Makes me appreciate my lazy Rambo custom even more. |
03-19-2010, 02:50 AM | #12245 |
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Logging hours was riding in a plane, experiencing certain maneuvers but not actually flying the plane. If the pilot was in a good mood we got to touch the stick and the rudder controls but nothing extreme. I did a few times, Heh, Nothing like ROC Ripcord did, But there's only so much you can do in a Cessna 172.
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03-19-2010, 02:56 AM | #12246 |
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I'm just curious if in any CAPs do any flight training for cadets. Particularly the Columbus Ohio squadron.
EDIT- After a quick google search you have to be at least 17 and have a private license to fly for the Civil Air Patrol. Depending on when he enlisted he wouldn't have much time to learn and log many hours before joining the military. Still it would most likely create the appreciation for flying, and I guess we could infer that he may have obtained a private pilot license at some point. Last edited by Loose Cannon; 03-19-2010 at 03:03 AM.. |
03-19-2010, 03:05 AM | #12247 |
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If he's a teenager in the 60's or 70's I would say go for it. If he's a teenager for the turn of the century, I would definately go for it. Most of those teenage pilots that I hear on the news had their start in Civil Air Patrol. It would definately be a good starting place for them (ARAH/ROC). So I would, Either way.
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03-19-2010, 03:15 AM | #12248 |
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Now, I'm going to make a bit of a strech here:
This version of Dusty was issued with a Green Beret, and his language skills were already established in earlier file cards. Now it mentions Flint as his partner on his file card. Now, Flint had been established as a Desert HALO jumper in his previous 2 versions at that time, but he was always listed as Special Forces. So I'm going out on a limb and saying that this Convention "file card" adds to the circumstancial evidence that Dusty is Special Forces. It's certainly not conclusive, but it's good enough for me to add him to my ODA Team - and I've been working on the figure. I think it's going to turn out really, really well. What do y'all think?
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03-19-2010, 04:14 AM | #12249 |
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EDIT- After a quick google search you have to be at least 17 and have a private license to fly for the Civil Air Patrol. Depending on when he enlisted he wouldn't have much time to learn and log many hours before joining the military. Still it would most likely create the appreciation for flying, and I guess we could infer that he may have obtained a private pilot license at some point.
Pilot training and the cadet program In October 1942, CAP planned a program to recruit and train youth with an emphasis on flight training. The CAP cadets assisted with operational tasks and began indoctrination and training towards becoming licensed pilots. I still say go for it. Especially if he moved to Dayton, Ohio as a kid. Possible Conjecture Teenage years: Moved to Dayton at 12, his uncle is the CAP squadron XO at Wright-Patterson AFB and he has a pilots license. Ripcord studies and gets a restricted pilots license at 16. He can still fly for 'himself' as a civilian, but when a CAP emergency is activated he fills the position as the Flight Observer. But as per the judgement of the 'emergency' pilot he may fly, age 17 could be a 'today' age restriction for a insurance reason, I cant recall if it happend in the 60's & 70's. Remember, paperwork back then wasnt as extensive and not readily available as today. So it became less about restrictions and it fell to judgement calls of an adult. So he completes and graduates from High School. Now since weve looked into the Civil Air Patrol option close enough. Since he has all this Air Force background, why does he join the Army now? The age thing also concerns me with the joe's 17 and 18 joining military (Shipwreck, Gung-Ho). But back then some miltary recruits lived and work with parents on a farm until 25 and then joined the military. Tho we are talking about a toy line entity that took ideas from WWII, Korean and Vietnam era for the 1980's. A time when all WWII nurses were officers, and Commodore was still a rank.
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03-19-2010, 05:43 AM | #12250 |
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Yeah there isn't anything that says RIpcord is Army. I wondered the same thing like why wasn't he in the Air Force? It doesn't mention the military at all on his filecard, which I thought was sort of lame. He went from High School to GIJoe! To me the mystique of the Paratrooper led me to think of him as at least a Ranger. But the whole line of "What he does when he hits the ground you don't want to know about." gives me the impression of Green Beret or even Delta Force.
YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Ripcord I was going to try and refer to the ROC Ripcord's filecard, but I almost started crying reading those worthless pieces of #&$*#$@!!!!! |
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