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02-05-2010, 02:02 AM | #11321 |
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Off the top of my head, based on their filecard data:
Served in Vietnam according to the prototype (unpublished) filecards (as revealed in Mark Bellomo's book):
Can be inferred from their filecards:
Based on their ranks at the time of their first release, the following Joes most likely would have already been in active service during the Vietnam War because of minimum time-in-service and time-in-grade requirements, even though no mention is made in their filecards:
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02-05-2010, 02:14 AM | #11322 |
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And Claymore.
I wonder about Major Storm and Repeater as well. Flint too. |
02-05-2010, 02:20 AM | #11323 |
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Who are all the Vietnam era Joes? I think I know the main ones, but then there are some that most likely would have participated in Southeast Asia at some point. Then one I try to remember is Gung-Ho. No where on his filecards does it mention Vietnam, yet I feel like at some point in the Comics he mentioned something about being there. I just don't have many of the early comics. particularly between 12-26. I was overseas so I missed out that year. Html comics is missing those years.
Duke Stalker Snake-Eyes Wild Bill Shipwreck Leatherneck Mainframe EDIT: Too late From his filecard, I get the impression Hawk spent most of his career in Europe.
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02-05-2010, 02:23 AM | #11324 |
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Good call on Repeater. His 1988 filecard says he's been in the Army for 20 years, so that means he enlisted in 1968. Not sure about Flint. If we assume that he's a W-2 in 1985 (and not an E-6, as is mistakenly indicated in his original filecard), it's certainly possible that he was already in the military during the late 1960s. But my impression of him is he's a fast mover, and probably made W-2 in the minimum time (something like 10 to 12 years). Also, keep in mind that he spent a lot of time for his post-secondary education, so I think it's more likely that he was studying in Oxford (thanks to his Rhodes scholarship) during the Vietnam War and was probably covered by conscription exemptions and/or deferments.
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02-05-2010, 02:30 AM | #11325 |
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Yeah true. I think of him the same way, but it sort of means he's much older than most of the Joes. So he enlists at say 24. If he's W-2 after ten years, in 1985 then he must have missed Vietnam. But if it's after 12 years then he may have caught the tail end in 73 or so. Still he's as old as Mainframe. Who is probably younger than me anyway.
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02-05-2010, 02:32 AM | #11326 |
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You may be thinking of Leatherneck. He was 1st Recon Bn during the war. This is the list that comes to mind for me.
Duke Stalker Snake-Eyes Wild Bill Shipwreck Leatherneck Mainframe EDIT: Too late From his filecard, I get the impression Hawk spent most of his career in Europe. As far as Gung-Ho I'm really wondering about comics or somewhere else. |
02-05-2010, 02:43 AM | #11327 |
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The weird thing about Hawk is mine came with a filecard that said O-4. I remember; because, I had to look it up in the Encyclopedia. But, I've never seen this variation listed anywhere.
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02-05-2010, 03:17 AM | #11328 |
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It reminds me of when I was a kid and one of the first things I saw GIJoe was a Christmas Catalouge. I just don't remember which one. I know it wasn't Sears. But that first year they had a set of 5 cobra Soldiers. The Officer, The Soldier, and then one with a Mortar and one with a Bazooka and one with a Machine gun. I would love to see those Filecards, but I imagine it was the same as the soldier, or you only got one for all Four to share. There were also 5 joes you could buy as well. Can't remember which ones, but Rock'n'Roll, Zap, and Short-Fuse for sure. |
02-05-2010, 03:26 AM | #11329 |
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Ranks may not be the best way to figure whether a Joe served in 'Nam or not. During Vietnam, time in service was often superseded by the needs of the Army and breaks in the Chain of Command due to so many soldiers being KIA.
As for Flint, his level of education would have put him ahead of the power curve for promotions. He would probably not have had to wait the normal time in service to get a Warrant Officer Slot, especially if he opted for the Warrant Officer Flight Program - that's really the only way his qualification as a helicopter pilot makes sense... it's not like their sending Green Berets to go learn to fly, but there are Flight Warrant Officers and Flight Officers who try out for SF. Hawk would have had to put in at least a few tours in 'Nam. He wasn't Infantry, but FA is still a Combat Arms branch, and NO Combat Arms Officers were being promoted to Colonel in the 80's who didn't do their time in 'Nam. The Action Force Battle File that says he was with Delta Force makes a lot of sense, actually. Why else would an FA officer get tapped to lead the Joes?
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02-05-2010, 03:31 AM | #11330 |
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I bet General Flagg was in 'Nam.
Roadblock's first appearance was with Duke, and it suggests that he has served with Duke for a very long time. Later, Roadblock gives some background on Flint after Flint's first appearance... it doesn't seem too off the mark to suggest that Roadblock could have served with Duke in 'Nam in the same SF group. I bet Recondo was in 'Nam.
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