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02-01-2010, 09:11 PM | #11291 |
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Bellomo keeps using the word "replete" in place of "complete" (as in "the figure comes replete with such-and-such accessories") when the two words aren't synonyms at all and he uses the grammatically incorrect "comprised of" in place of "composed of." These are the type of things I'd ignore in colloquial conversation or informal correspondence, but in a coffee table book that costs $30 Canadian, I wish a little more care was taken with regards to the copy editing, since these easily corrected grammatical errors making it into publication give the impression of amateurish production values.
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02-01-2010, 11:04 PM | #11292 |
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I can see the mistake in using replete instead of complete, but to comprise also means to be composed of--if what he meant was to contain or consist of something--so I'm not sure why that couldn't work. I think "comprised of" wasn't initially acceptable but I'd say its usage has become common and acceptable today.
Thus, it would be correct to say something like "the Triple T's armament comprises two missiles and two cannons." It would be incorrect to say "the Triple T's armament is comprised of two missiles and two cannons," since the of after comprised is redundant. Another alternative would be to say that "the Triple T's armament is composed of two missiles and two cannons." The Canadian Department of Justice(!) website has the best explanation I know of with regards to the proper usage of the word "comprise," while also acknowledging that more and more people are beginning to use "comprise of" in place of "compose of." Check it out here. I readily accept that people use "comprised of" to mean "composed of" in everyday conversation and informal settings, but it just bothers me slightly that a paid editor would miss something that basic (I've taught the "comprise vs. compose" distinction to high school students!), particularly since Bellomo's book, at $30 Canadian, is positioned as something of a mid to high end specialist publication. Just like any product I pay for (be it a toy, a book, or a video game), I expect a certain amount of professional polish/quality control in keeping with the price I paid for the item. Last edited by zuludelta; 02-01-2010 at 11:25 PM.. |
02-02-2010, 02:47 AM | #11293 |
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just wondering if anyone else has been having trouble with the "new posts" & "today's posts" search function. only lets me see the last fifty.
fast draw started a thread asking about this problem and when i tried to reply in his thread it told me i didnt have permission. so i started my own thread which got moved into his and then i still couldnt reply to it. i pm'd xxFlintxx, the mod, who responded to fast draw's thread & he says they still don't have an answer on why it's doing this. going on a week now. anyone? |
02-02-2010, 01:15 PM | #11294 |
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Recently, I watched a program on the CIA's operations at Tora Bora on the National Geographic Channel. It got me thinking...
The Joes are a military organization (DoD). But they recruit from all the branches of service and don't seem to be under the command of just the Army. What if they're the DoD's version of of the CIA's SAD Teams? In which case, could they be the D.I.A.'s Tier One Counter Terrorism Unit? It keeps them as a DoD asset, but it frees them up for a lot of covert operations - especially since the HumInt operations of the DIA have been ramped up for the past 5 years. Oh, and this from the Oxford English Dictionary - Comprise • verb 1 be made up of; consist of. 2 (also be comprised of) make up; constitute. — USAGE Traditionally, comprise means ‘consist of’ and should not be used to mean ‘constitute or make up (a whole)’. However, a passive use of comprise is becoming part of standard English: this use (as in the country is comprised of twenty states) is more or less synonymous with the traditional active sense (as in the country comprises twenty states). — ORIGIN from French, ‘comprised’, from comprendre ‘comprehend’. It would seem that this less formal definition/usage is becoming more common and accepted. English changes over time, and common usage and informality often dictate the nature and direction of that change. Contractions are becoming more and more accepted. Even split infinitives are being accepted in some circles - thanks to Star Trek. All in all, I think it might be helpful to consider the context of the usage. A book about toys and comicbook characters might not be considered "too formal" for common usage. I did think it was odd that the Canadian Department of Justice has posted anything dealing the English grammar. I'm sure it's nice for the Mounties to be eloquent, but don't they teach grammar in schools?
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02-02-2010, 01:31 PM | #11295 |
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just wondering if anyone else has been having trouble with the "new posts" & "today's posts" search function. only lets me see the last fifty.
fast draw started a thread asking about this problem and when i tried to reply in his thread it told me i didnt have permission. so i started my own thread which got moved into his and then i still couldnt reply to it. i pm'd xxFlintxx, the mod, who responded to fast draw's thread & he says they still don't have an answer on why it's doing this. going on a week now. anyone?
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02-02-2010, 01:36 PM | #11296 |
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Yeah, I don't know what the deal is with the list of "New Posts". It's a little messed up around here.
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02-02-2010, 01:50 PM | #11297 |
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It's being worked on.
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02-02-2010, 03:22 PM | #11298 |
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So what about it, guys - could G.I. Joe be the Defense Intelligence Agency's answer to the C.I.A.'s S.A.D.? It would allow it to stay within the DoD and draw from all branches of the military.
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02-02-2010, 03:53 PM | #11299 |
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Here are the definitions, as taken from the DoD Dictionary of Military Terms:
Of course, just like the "comprise of" and "compose of" delineation we've been discussing, the difference between "covert" and "clandestine" are being blurred in current popular usage (to our detriment, I think... the separation of the two serves an important function in protecting soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen from any legal ramifications resulting from the conduct of covert and/or clandestine operations). Last edited by zuludelta; 02-02-2010 at 04:20 PM.. |
02-02-2010, 04:04 PM | #11300 |
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You mean like the Strategic Support Branch, but with a much bigger role?
10 man teams. 2 year assignments. Strategic Support Branch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://www.historycommons.org/entity...r_project_icon Most DIA guys I met are old guys, but this article mentions that Seal team 6, two Delta Squadrons, another Army Squadron code-named Gray-Fox (I figure that might just sell it for you Oliver), and an Air Force Intelligence Unit. What is Ace's SMS? Intelligence Operations? Why not throw a Marine Force Recon team in there? All led by a Colonel! Last edited by Loose Cannon; 02-02-2010 at 04:12 PM.. |
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