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01-26-2010, 12:05 PM | #11201 |
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Wow it's been a while since we went into depth on any Cobras. If at all. Maybe we should pick one and explore every nuance then pick another. Most of them get little development so we have to assume a lot. Although I'm partial to some of the more obscure ones like Skullbuster and Interrogator, Wild Weasel has always been a favorite of mine.
But we still haven't figure out what is the Cobra Manifesto. I wonder if there is a Cobra Mission Statement? Yeah right. Although I bet there is a Cobra Creed or a Range-Viper Creed. And there most certainly is a secret oath. |
01-26-2010, 12:13 PM | #11202 |
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I keep coming back to the thing that Cobra has to win sometimes. No one, no matter how much you're bad, would stay with an organization that constantly loses and is run by a complete moron.
I can't see the members of Cobra honoring any contracts they potentially might sign.
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01-26-2010, 12:30 PM | #11203 |
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I think we first have to look at the initial development of Cobra. How did it get started? Where did it get its first development funds? Is CC motivated purely by greed? Vengeance? Does he actually believe that he's fighting the "good" fight against capitalism or whatever? Or is it just a cover for global domination? Is he a crazy leftist or is he in fact on the extreme right of fascism or corporate globalization? And how large should Cobra be? It would require quite a bit of resources for Cobra to have an air force, armor, artillery, etc and where would they base all of this? In the US? I've always felt that Cobra's main location would have to exist outside of the states.
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01-26-2010, 12:40 PM | #11204 |
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It's like the Joes, adding an air force and navy just starts really complicating things.
IDW Cobra has to be swimming in money. That Section Zero place would cost a large fortune to build and maintain, let alone run. The other thing that never gets touched upon is you have this organization, what do you do with members that leave? What about downtime? No one would stick around if they didn't have anythign to spend their money on, or anything to do between missions. Scientists are easy. No restrictions, unlimited budget, and they're happy. It's the muscle that ends up being the problem. So it ends up, I think, having to be about something besides money. Otherwise, what is their motivation to stay and lose some personal freedoms?
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01-26-2010, 12:42 PM | #11205 |
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Yeah I was looking to see if say a "Cobra Manifesto" could be a combination of Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto, but one is pretty racist and the other is very anti-Capitalist. I see Cobra as being the Antithesis of both plus a lot of Tea Party elements. A real Don't Tread on Me! Movement. Maybe Ron Paul has a Crimson Guard uniform in his closet.
Ahhh now I'm talking politics. But there has to be some politics behind Cobra. Some Ideal they follow, Good or bad. Last edited by Loose Cannon; 01-26-2010 at 01:04 PM.. |
01-26-2010, 12:43 PM | #11206 |
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Cobra has to be about the idealogy. Money will only take people so far before they say "forget this".
The main base would have to be outside the states. There's no way Springfield would ever get made.
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01-26-2010, 01:19 PM | #11207 |
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I don't know. I think Troynos has a good point about Springfield... I don't know that it would be very possible today. However, if it were a small town in a more rural State, I think it could be very plausible, especially back in the early 80's before all the satalites and cell phones. For example if it were located in Rural North Carolina or Alabama or Mississippi, I can imagine that it would be pretty plausible in the 80's. Given the fact that Cobra Island was in the Gulf of Mexico, it would make a lot of sense to locate a place like Springfeild in a State that had access to the Gulf - like Alabama or Mississippi or rural Florida.
In an overly urbanized state, like in the Northeastern Coast of the U.S., I can see how it would be virtually impossible to hide a place like Springfield. However, there are small towns all over Rural America that are remote and are hardly visited by strangers. And although our nation is becoming increasingly smaller through technology, there are still plenty of pockets in America that are culturaly and geographically isolated - and in the 80's, my own hometown in Mississippi was a pretty isolated place.
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01-26-2010, 01:21 PM | #11208 |
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What would be a good location? Something close to the states would cause an immediate threat, so South America seems ideal, but Cobra could/should have influences and contacts in the rest of the world. The big question: What does CC want? Global domination is cliche and unrealistic. What does he really want and why does he want it? Let's think about what motivates other terrorist organizations. I think, though, that his motivations should be complex. In other words, he shouldn't just be evil for the sake of being evil. Perhaps he actually has some good intentions but he gets caught up in his own delusions and corrupted by his own ideas and power. Forest Whitaker's depiction of Idi Amin was amazing and truly scary because this man was at times benevolent but also a brutal tyrant. |
01-26-2010, 01:21 PM | #11209 |
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Springfield would have to be very remote. Somehow they would participate in State government, but it's not somewhere where people would often venture to. Because if they did they couldn't leave. I suppose someplace like Wyoming? Where ever local militia feel comfortable setting up shop, a Cobra town like Springfield could set up. But there would have to be a legitimate front for Cobra, like a Private Military Contractor Company + Oil or mineral mining. Then Boom! Haliburton like contracts from everything from toilet paper delivery to Weapons delivery. Plus Blackwater. Plus if they do any excavating it's the perfect front for building large underground complexes.
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01-26-2010, 01:25 PM | #11210 |
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I don't know. I think Troynos has a good point about Springfield... I don't know that it would be very possible today. However, if it were a small town in a more rural State, I think it could be very plausible, especially back in the early 80's before all the satalites and cell phones. For example if it were located in Rural North Carolina or Alabama or Mississippi, I can imagine that it would be pretty plausible in the 80's. Given the fact that Cobra Island was in the Gulf of Mexico, it would make a lot of sense to locate a place like Springfeild in a State that had access to the Gulf - like Alabama or Mississippi or rural Florida.
In an overly urbanized state, like in the Northeastern Coast of the U.S., I can see how it would be virtually impossible to hide a place like Springfield. However, there are small towns all over Rural America that are remote and are hardly visited by strangers. And although our nation is becoming increasingly smaller through technology, there are still plenty of pockets in America that are culturaly and geographically isolated - and in the 80's, my own hometown in Mississippi was a pretty isolated place. |
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