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01-25-2010, 04:21 PM | #11191 |
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That's a good question BCross. What is the Cobra Philosophy Cobra Soldiers subscribe to? I feel like a majority must be lowlife roughneck types who may be facing prison or getting his legs broken by his bookie. I bet Some guys may even get shang-haied into Cobra, and get sort of stuck there. But I assume Cobra Commander would want them to stay for the money, and some other benefit. But what? Probably the same as the espirit de corp for the French Foreign Legion. Probably the same thing that bonded men of the SS together.
To me my most favorite Cobras are the ones I feel/pretend are ultra loyal to the Commander. The Twins, Wild Weasel, Interrogator. But I'm liking Blackout for the same reason as well as Guillotine, and Scrap-Iron as well must have been pulled away from Destro for some reason. And of Course, Copperhead and Big Boa who have both been described that way. But what is the Cobra manifesto? |
01-25-2010, 04:48 PM | #11192 |
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01-25-2010, 07:43 PM | #11193 |
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This is something I have wondered about. With how paranoid CC has been shown to be would he truly welcome or trust a defector? Could SI be a spy for Destro? Or was he sent to spy on Destro by CC originally and then brought back into the fold?
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01-25-2010, 07:46 PM | #11194 |
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What is it about CC that make people want to follow him?
What made Destro, a smart guy, look at CC and go "Yeah, this guy has his act together, I'll ally with him".
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01-26-2010, 01:33 AM | #11195 |
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I know some people like to think of Scrap-Iron as more of a Destro employee than a Cobra Commander henchman. Sent to spy by Destro. Although I like the idea that CC sent him to MARS and he stole the technology and then came back. The only place that is mentioned is his filecard, where he was a MARS engineer. The Cartoons he was loyal to the commander and he didn't have too much of a roll in the comics except killing soft-master, Candy and taking Billy's leg and eye. But his connection to MARS is mentioned nowhere else besides the Filecard.
I assume CC offerred him the job as chief Weapons Armorer, Manufacturer, tester. "Here's $500,000 annual salary, plus a $1 billion budget, and free reign and a kick ass lab with all the assistance you need." Scrap-Iron must be sort of a sadist, and must be willing to force kidnapped scientist to help him get the results he needs. He must have hated Dr. Mindbender. Obviously brilliant, Mindbender took over the Tech development once he got there. That was Scrap-Iron's job. Maybe he just couldn't hack it. I wonder when they formed Phoenix Guard how they all went along with it? Super Dangerous mission with CC's toughest agents, but little in the way of backup. As far as Destro allying himself with Cobra Commander it has to be about the money. I like to think that Cobra has unlimited resources, and the prospect of endless orders for military arms, coupled with the fact that Cobra actively participates in inciting regime changes through civil wars can only leads to more customers. |
01-26-2010, 02:55 AM | #11196 |
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But in the cartoon Scrap Iron did betray CC in Arise Serpentor Arise. He tells of CC swapping out the vial and of his treachery.
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01-26-2010, 05:56 AM | #11197 |
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Oh yeah what a rat! What side was Scrap-Iron on during the Cobra Civil War? Was he even there?
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01-26-2010, 09:24 AM | #11198 |
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They didn't show him, but I think the organization charts they showed in the back had him with CC and not Serpentor.
But if Scrap-Iron was Cobra, went to MARS to steal secrets, and came back; wouldnt' that make Destro kind of pissed at CC and not want to work with the guy anymore? I never saw Scrap-Iron as a tech guy (even though he was made that way in Phoenix Guard). I just saw him as a munitions guy, making bigger and better explosives and delivery systems. For the Phoenix Guard, I think it was that they were paid. I know Firefly/Snake-Eater makes reference to "the check clearing, so good to go".
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01-26-2010, 11:37 AM | #11199 |
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They didn't show him, but I think the organization charts they showed in the back had him with CC and not Serpentor.
But if Scrap-Iron was Cobra, went to MARS to steal secrets, and came back; wouldnt' that make Destro kind of pissed at CC and not want to work with the guy anymore? I never saw Scrap-Iron as a tech guy (even though he was made that way in Phoenix Guard). I just saw him as a munitions guy, making bigger and better explosives and delivery systems. For the Phoenix Guard, I think it was that they were paid. I know Firefly/Snake-Eater makes reference to "the check clearing, so good to go". But I'd say Scrap-Iron is more Desktop Support than Help Desk. Sure he's tech savvy but he likes getting his hands dirty. YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Scrap Iron Arctic Threat is my favorite version BTW. |
01-26-2010, 11:53 AM | #11200 |
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Definately gets his hands dirty, he's got the scars to prove it.
The B.A.T.S., Mindbender would do the robotics and the AI, Scrap-Iron would do the weapons and the targeting systems.
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