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12-16-2009, 03:20 AM | #10771 |
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OK I have an actual Filecard issue. You know what I just caught on Mercer's filecard after reading Troynos J.O.E. Verse? Besides the obvious of the name change stuff it says he was part of Slaughter's Mauraders instead of the Renegades. I don't know why I never caught that before, as he's one of my favorite figures.
I'm guessing most people never got the version 2 figure. He's somewhat of an enigma. But maybe that's why I like him so much. Still I personally like the figure for several reasons. 1. He's from Virginia 2. He's got a good color scheme considering he's suppose to have ties to Cobra 3. He's now a Sgt Major. And there lies the problem with him. How could someone who defects become a Sgt Major? Still Zulu you made a great use for him as Government Agent, which is probably how it would work out for someone like him. DDP had him as a Sgt Major as a team leader, which I liked. I guess they were trying to make it make sense. |
12-16-2009, 03:47 AM | #10772 |
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I don't think there would be an opportunity for someone like Mercer to become a SMG. Especially if Slaughter never made it that high. I just can't imagine giving that type of power to someone that could be a plant or a sleeper. But that again goes more into the psi-fi aspect of everything too... or does it?
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12-16-2009, 04:38 AM | #10773 |
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I always posited that Mercer was a Joe spy ala Agent Delta.
Flagg always had alot of covert ops happening which even Hawk didn't know too much about. In my world Flagg knew Cobra would one day present a huge problem so took steps to infiltrate them; Agent Alpha - Storm Shadow (attempted to infiltrate Cobra and got brainwashed. Would explain why he was suddenly a Joe after the brainwashing wore off) also why wouldn't Flagg recruit him? Stalker was the number 1 draft pick and SE was somewhere in the first 13 picks so why not someone from the same unit and even stronger infiltration skills. His mission-infiltrate Cobra top tier Agent Beta - Wade Collins (again why not? they took Stalker, SE and SS, why not him?). His mission - Infiltrate the Crimson Guard Agent Charlie - Major Bludd (not so much an agent but more, they just offered him more cash to be an informant, maybe that's why CC had him killed as a traitor. I'm still not convinced Flagg Sr's dead. We never saw a body and the only other Joe Bludd killed (Recondo) turned up alive and well having faked his death) Agent Delta - enough said, his mission -infiltrate Cobra when it was starting out. We don't know how high he got but the fact that Tomax and Xamot knew him by name means he got pretty high up the chain Agent Echo - Mercer. Sgt Major from Delta infiltrates Cobra Viper Corps, has his cover blown and retreats back to a team where he would have been an earlier member. Agent Foxtrot = Agent Faces Agent Golf - Anthony Beuke / Sneak Peek II. his mission - infiltrate the Dreadnoks Agent Hotel - Agent Helix, Only Duke and Hawk know she's a Joe, mission - unrevealed |
12-16-2009, 04:48 AM | #10774 |
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well i like those explinations.... so who are the cobra/mars agents that have infultrated joe? there must be a Yin and Yang.
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12-16-2009, 05:30 AM | #10775 |
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We discussed these a few (hundred) pages back, I think
umm from memory I think we had; Duke (like in Reborn) Gung Ho (born in a fictitious place named after a snake; fer de Lance, LA) Snake Eyes (the Snake's Eyes) My verse personally, thought about Chuckles working for someone other than the JOes. Still mostly altruistic but definitely not SOCOM, says so on his filecard not sure about others, toyed with the idea of Chameleon being a triple agent for Destro but haven't cemented anything. |
12-16-2009, 10:58 AM | #10776 |
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That's an interesting idea... I use the Marauders, Maybe I'll use Mercer as a member of that team now. It makes sense... If Sgt. Slaughter went from leading the Renegades, he might have wanted to take his best Intelligence asset with him. So Mercer comes over to help the Marauders as an Intel operative. Then, considering his 2006 convention figure, Mercer still works with the Renegades for completely Off-the-Books missions.
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12-16-2009, 11:18 AM | #10777 |
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Yeah, I don't see how Mercer becomes a sgt. major, that doesn't make sense. I dont' think Mercer was very well thought out.
Think someone said "let's make him an ex-Viper" and thought it would be cool and that's as far as it got. I'm using Mercer kind of like Tyroc, except for always being a Joe agent.
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12-16-2009, 10:54 PM | #10778 |
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there are some joes like recondo & ambush that have always had a brit/ aussie feel to them for me & i have used them with big ben as a Joe SAS group. i'd like to see an updated big ben. i've been thinking about making Capt Price & Soap customs from modern warfare 2 to further bolster the ranks. also thought about schoolboy & the other SAS guy in the latest Rambo |
12-16-2009, 11:17 PM | #10779 |
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12-16-2009, 11:24 PM | #10780 |
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I always posited that Mercer was a Joe spy ala Agent Delta.
Flagg always had alot of covert ops happening which even Hawk didn't know too much about. In my world Flagg knew Cobra would one day present a huge problem so took steps to infiltrate them; Agent Alpha - Storm Shadow (attempted to infiltrate Cobra and got brainwashed. Would explain why he was suddenly a Joe after the brainwashing wore off) also why wouldn't Flagg recruit him? Stalker was the number 1 draft pick and SE was somewhere in the first 13 picks so why not someone from the same unit and even stronger infiltration skills. His mission-infiltrate Cobra top tier Agent Beta - Wade Collins (again why not? they took Stalker, SE and SS, why not him?). His mission - Infiltrate the Crimson Guard Agent Charlie - Major Bludd (not so much an agent but more, they just offered him more cash to be an informant, maybe that's why CC had him killed as a traitor. I'm still not convinced Flagg Sr's dead. We never saw a body and the only other Joe Bludd killed (Recondo) turned up alive and well having faked his death) Agent Delta - enough said, his mission -infiltrate Cobra when it was starting out. We don't know how high he got but the fact that Tomax and Xamot knew him by name means he got pretty high up the chain Agent Echo - Mercer. Sgt Major from Delta infiltrates Cobra Viper Corps, has his cover blown and retreats back to a team where he would have been an earlier member. Agent Foxtrot = Agent Faces Agent Golf - Anthony Beuke / Sneak Peek II. his mission - infiltrate the Dreadnoks Agent Hotel - Agent Helix, Only Duke and Hawk know she's a Joe, mission - unrevealed |
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