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11-04-2008, 01:18 PM | #31 |
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In the Devils Due series Hawk was paralyzed when Zartan disguised as Cobra Commander shot him in the back. Joe Colton was then brought back to command the G.I.Joe team and he only answered to the President. I'm sure the new IDW series will introduce a new command structure as well. It's your Joeverse. Run it how you see fit!
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11-04-2008, 01:39 PM | #32 |
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I also found it interesting that Duke was a First Sergeant and not a Master Sergeant. In my personal military experience the First Sergeant played a more administrative/operations/support type of role rather then a more direct role. Just as important, but in a different medium. Whereas the Master Sergeant happened to function more as a "team leader" if you will. Then again my company was top heavy... NCO's were a dime a dozen. |
11-04-2008, 01:42 PM | #33 |
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This is based of one of the best lists I've seen as it seems to be the most up to date. I got it from another site And I 'm not sure if I can share the source.
I go: 0-10 Colton 0-9 Hawk; Keel-Haul 0-8 Gen Flagg Sr.(I waited 20 odd yrs) Duke (Govt equivalent) 0-7 Rey Flagg Jr. Payload 0-6 Flint(Hawk never told him about the promotion) Ace Courage Claymore Steel Brigade Commander Colonel Brekov 0-5 Skystiker Sure-Fire Loose Cannon(Myself) 0-4 Major Storm Steeler Falcon Bullet-proof Ghost-Rider Major Barrage 0-3 Psyche-Out Lt. Torpedo Doc Gears Rapid Fire Updraft Windmill Maverick countdown Grid-iron Red Star Other notable changes: Stalker is the No.1 NCO (E-9) Beachhead also (E-9) Snake-Eyes;Scarlet;Sgt. Slaughter (E-8) Grunt; Zap; Recondo; Roadblock; Lady Jaye;Dusty; Chuckles; Clutch; Outback; Spirit; and Airborne(Talltree) all (E-7) I'm not sure how Warrant Officers go but I assume that a (CW-4) is somewhat equivalent to an (0-4) major in certain situations. Like when you're in WildBills Helicopter he can pull rank over grid-Iron. But they fit in after the Lowest Leiutenants (Thunderwing) Last edited by Loose Cannon; 11-04-2008 at 01:44 PM.. |
11-04-2008, 01:43 PM | #34 |
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this thread has made me wonder one thing mostly ~ who the crap is Col. Courage??? (and why did he get stuck with such a bad codename)
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11-04-2008, 01:53 PM | #35 |
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He's a BAMF!!! Seriously? He showed up pretty late to the party...1993. I think he was in the first Battle Corps series. I always like him as a kid. He rocked a shirt and tie underneath his webgear.
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11-04-2008, 02:01 PM | #36 |
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YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Colonel Courage
I love him. He's militaristic enough, but relegated to guard duty is my verse. |
11-04-2008, 02:05 PM | #37 |
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After Hawk was paralyzed, General Rey took over. Rey was replaced by Colton when the series became America's Elite.
Also, after Austin, Hawk answered to Gen. Hollingsworth. Hawk, then Rey, then Colton has always been the #1 of the unit, regardless of the General he reported to (that General, Flagg, Austin, Hollingsworth were the oversight).
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11-04-2008, 02:17 PM | #38 |
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YOJOE.COM | Filecard Gallery - Colonel Courage
I love him. He's militaristic enough, but relegated to guard duty is my verse. Edit: Man that'd be an easy custom with Dukes body, SRO Hawks helmet, Clutch's head and some paint.
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11-04-2008, 02:29 PM | #39 |
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Rank Shmank. The Joes are above their official military grades now (at least according to IDW) Hawk to Duke while offering him the job "Call me Hawk. We don't use rank in this place" So Hasbro could make a PFC KitchenSink action figure and he could technically be put in charge of the team if he's good enough at leading.... I think Duke will end up picking Flint as 2nd, but who knows, both Flint and BeachHead are in the 'pre-Cobra' Joes (according to #0) i think it's just IDW's way of trying to fix the mess Hasbro made of the rank structure.
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11-04-2008, 02:32 PM | #40 |
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I look at it as Hawk being the Commander and Duke as his NCO counterpart (Senior Enlisted Advisor).... same in the military. Everyone obeys the commander, but listens and follows the CSM/1SG. Normally the CSM/1SG is following the commanders intent and knows more about what is going on than the Company Commanders/Platoon Leaders... The Soldiers follow the NCO Leader not based on rank, but experience, knowledge, and leadership abilities. If Duke did not possess these characteristics then Hawk would not have entrusted him with the position.
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