|10-20-2008, 03:00 AM||#21|
The Chaos Bringer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Skid Row Yo!!!
Yes. I agree, that the Star Wars Line is dying faster than a roach in Borax. That so called midnight madness we had at TRU in July was more like midnight ghost town at my TRU, and I live in L.A. Also coupled with the fact SDCC was that weekend, but clone wars animated? No one gave a shit. I'm sick of seeing so many pegs full of Star Wars figures. No one cares anymore, if Hasbro were smart which sometimes I question if they are they would put out a few revised characters and do either all new figures or start doing playsets. I really don't like all the damn clone trooper versions, but I'll tell you, yes I'll buy the sarlacc pit and yes I bought the Lars homestead. And yes Mattel's distribution was, is now and always will be for shit. In the 80's they didn't make enough he-man's, in the 2000's they only made he-man and skeletor, now with DCUC they send one of each per case, . . . in a case of six, . . . every three weeks. WTF?....
|10-20-2008, 03:04 AM||#22|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: So. Cal, the Inland Empire
See... I was looking forward to the Lars Homestead until I saw it. Then I glanced down at the price tag and said (out loud) F**k that! Then I realized I was in a toy store and shouldn't say such things... luckily no kids were near.
Then I glanced over at the B-Wing fighter with the cheesy paint job and silently repeated the same exclamation.
Now I'm debating on whether or not I should start selling bits of my collection that I no longer want... few Sideshow figures, last years ultimate battle packs, Target Imperial Shuttle...
I just don't find myself caring anymore. I just have a feeling that if I did start piecing it out I'd eventually regret it.
|10-20-2008, 04:23 AM||#23|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Star Wars just got to expensive that people just don't want to spend 7-8 bucks a pop for such a cheap figure anymore. I wish I had every penny I spent for 80% of my collection. And I hate to say this but GI Joe may have the same fate if the greed is not put to a stop. It would be interesting to see USA creating its own manufacturing plants. All I know is our future is starting to look more cloudy as months go by.
Loyal fan since 1982.
|10-20-2008, 05:47 AM||#24|
Join Date: Jul 2007
I think most of us are losing the forest for the trees here. This, to me, is the most salient fact:
I feel the writing is pretty much on the wall, and has been for a while... the time of affordable mass-market action figures is drawing to a close. Look at the price increases in the last year on 4" figures... and it's not because the toy companies are getting any greedier. It's because the cost of materials, production and freight are steadily going up and the buying power of the American dollar is steadily going down.
Plastic toys made in the far east are extremely susceptible to fluctuations in the price of petroleum products, and that's been climbing for a while and is unlikely to get any cheaper.
Can the market bear $12 for a single-carded Joe, especially with the domestic American economy facing it's largest crisis in fifty years?
Enjoy this line, and the other amazing modern lines, while they last, because the time is running out on them. I'm talking a matter of several years, but I'm doubtful that there will be a significant number of mass-market action figures made from plastic in a decade. There will probably still be really high end stuff, like the 1:6 things from Hot Toys or Masterpiece TransFormers, but those items will also become even more relatively expensive than they already are.
Last edited by metaphorge; 10-20-2008 at 05:56 AM..
|10-20-2008, 08:19 AM||#25|
Join Date: Jan 2008
But that point aside, I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment, though not to that dire of a degree.
And Hasbro's still making good money, and would be even if they extended their 33% price hikes to the rest of their toy lines to pay higher production costs:
Last edited by botticus; 10-20-2008 at 08:25 AM..
|10-20-2008, 08:26 AM||#26|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Knox TN
Oh no......no GI Joe Movie Toys next year...........
|10-20-2008, 08:31 AM||#27|
Join Date: Jan 2008
I work in a toy store and I can tell you people are not buying as much and we have less customer traffic.Our Payroll is being cut too! cutting payroll already as we get ready for busy season?
our corporate are having weekly conference calls and seems like they are in panic mode
The truth is...the dollar is headed into the toilet...money is printed out of thin air backed by NOTHING...its only the confidence in the dollar that keeps its value..FOR NOW!
As time goes on, things will get worse, more job losses are to come....which means less spending and a greater slowdown in the retail field......Sad but true
Last edited by teemu8; 10-20-2008 at 08:34 AM..
|10-20-2008, 08:43 AM||#28|
Z Force Commando
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: UK England
I feel sorry for the people that lost their jobs.
|10-20-2008, 10:01 AM||#29|
Join Date: Jul 2007
This video from CNN i pretty heart wenching:
My prediction is pretty dire I'll agree; I don't expect it to fully come to pass for several years, so hopefully we can sate ourselves on the nice stuff we're getting now.
Last edited by metaphorge; 10-20-2008 at 10:05 AM..
|10-20-2008, 09:01 PM||#30|
Scarred Cobra Officer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New Jersey
Hasbro mentioned today in the investors call that the cost of production in China had increased by 30% in part due to the appreciation of the Chinese currency, the Remninbi.
David Hargreaves, the CEO, mentioned that Hasbro tries to maintain their gross margins, so higher cost means higher prices. He said that although the price of oil has increased and decreased over the past year, the price of resins such as ABS polypro, are still higher versus where they where a year ago.
Brian Goldner, the CEO, did say that the 4th quarter of 2008 will be challenging but they are looking forward to a better year in 2009.
But Hasbro still believes that "Christmas will come" for consumers and retailers.
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